hi robert:
i left erac making 48k almost doubled that within a year and was making six figures within 2years after that. not in sales, but in an exec capacity.

it can be done, maybe not by all, but it can be done.

funny story, i had exceeds requirements reviews for 2 review periods and had lateraled into my admin spot from rental. so, i basically hadn't had a pay increase for 1.5 years. during that time i asked for a raise 4 times. i was ignored the first 3 times, literally no response from my manager or her manager. i started looking for a job after the 3rd brush off and told no on the 4th. when i turned in my resignation, stating my new salary, they were honestly shocked. i'll never forget this for as long as i live and i truly hope i'm never this ridiculous with any of my employees. they honestly said to me, we had no idea money was so important to you.

i laughed and said, what do you think i have been doing for the last 4 years, charity work?

so my simple advice for anyone working at the big e or anyone else who has left is this:

take erac for the experience it can give you, learn from the few good people you meet and the copious numbers of bad managers that you encounter. then move on and be happy. your life is yours to control- not erac or anyone else's. don't be a whiny victim. you can be pitiful or you can be powerful but you can't be both. oh yeah, and get off the cross, we need the wood.