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Originally Posted by 32AATopIPEandDub Well, I totally agree with what you have wrote, Dom. But you wrote that it was mainly an economical battle as well as a political one. The PEOPLE of the north cried out for freedom of slaves or to halt the expansion of slaves, NOT conservatism ok? To say that conservatives lobbied for freedom of slaves is a silly and gross exaggeration. I totally agree with everything that you wrote in the first paragraph. That is what I learned as well, but you seem to interpret that as if Conservatives were so moral that they had to free the slaves out of the goodness of their heart. The Confederates were the conservatives of those days that did not want progressive change. As for China, you're absolutely wrong. You still seem to be stuck in the Maoist era view of China. You can absolutely do anything you want except threaten to overthrow the government. China is more capitalistic than the U.S.. If you have the money, you can do anything. Study what China has been doing after 1978 and especially after 1989. People protested and were not squashed by tanks as western propaganda claimed. There hasn't been many protests because it's hard to complain when the economy is growing at 11% annually. The only protests were illegal protests of religious groups such as the Falun Gong and the Dalai Lama that threatened to have too much political power and overthrow the government. Imagine The Church of Scientology taking over the white house. I'm sure we would set up laws to prevent that. China is actually the country headed towards a democratic federalism with strong capitalistic values while America is steering towards socialism. By the way Dom. You seem like a very bright guy with a good education. How come you ended up working at Enterprise? |
My talents lean towards the defense industry. I am an engineer by education, but I have a, and this is quoting my boss, exceptional knack for both logistics and statistics. Anyway after being RIF'ed out of the air force, thank you Clinton, I worked for several aerospace firms. Clintonomics made it very difficult to keep a job. I would get hired for a contract and when it was completed we would all be laid off. Each time I was laid off I would go find a job, any job, that I could make money at while I looked for a "real" job. I started for ECRAP and moved up fast. Within 2 years I was making about 70k and looking to make a lot more. I weighed the opportunities in aerospace, most engineer jobs cap at about 120k and thought I could make more with erac. I figured I could put up with the shit. Then I was offered my current job. We contract to do various jobs for our government and others. I mainly work in aviation, and aviation logistics. When I got this I told erac to suck my hairy balls and walked out.
Now on to what we were talking about. I thought you understood I am not a conservative. Hell I am an agnostic, they would shit their pants if they thought I called myself conservative. I tend to lean right on taxes, immigration, spending, and the military. Many of my other views are very centrist. I still consider myself a republican because on the issues I care most about are more aligned with them. And if I didn't wifey would kick me, kidding.
Listen here is my life in a nutshell and how three poor kids became republicans. I grew up poor, so did my wife and my best friend. Growing up all the dems would offer us is food stamps, welfare, and other payments we didn't want. We looked around us and saw losers that just wanted an easy life, and no responsibility. What we wanted was a chance to get out of there. The republican's believed in earning your lunch and that by working hard you could make it out. Posleen and I both studied, graduated with honors, and passing up 1/2 ride scholarships because we couldn't afford the other 1/2 , went into the airforce. His sister, my wife, got a full scholarship. We all made our way. Pos and I used Tuition assistance and later the GI bill to get degrees and both of us earned commissions. Pos is still in but I got RIF'ed. THe rest you know.
What this all left us with is the belief that anyone can do this, and placating the masses, making it easier for them to do nothing is just wrong. The only people who should ever get a free ride are those who can't work, the elderly and children. Everyone else gets exactly what they deserve.
That said, now is the time to get any digs you want to in because as of next Tuesday, I will be gone for about 5 weeks.