Originally Posted by Baba O'Reily

It's unique that this site is the first stop for most of the people who quit or get shitcanned from the big E. I guess its nice to provide an eletronic home for the cadre of MTs, MAs, and ABRMs who never tried, always convinced themselves they we're being set up to take the fall, and realized that they are a special and unique snowflake and therefore can't be held accountable for their shitty attitudes.

The thing about the E is learning to cut through the bullshit and take it as it is. Yeah, its a starter job for most employees (lets face it, no company can support an 80% management structure, so not everyone is gonna make it). And its true that all the accolades and attention go to the shining star of the moment, but that's how the real world works. Don't expect a trophy and a cash prize just for showing up; participation ribbons are for 6 year olds and mongoloids. I know a lot of you leave for the Pharma sales; do you think you'll be getting email props and a mention in the newsletter when your performance is somewhere around the 40th percentile? Probably not.

Another thing to realize is that there are a lot of shitty managers and employees at a lot of companies. Despite what Admin and the Can'tHacks want you to think, Jack and Andy don't sit in the Halls of Sorrow dreaming of new ways to torture college grads. A message gets sent from the top, and lost in translation (usually around the ARM/BRM stage). Example: Corporate/SVPs say "Cut working hours to create a more hospitable working environment for your employees." GMs and RVPs then say "You're putting too many hours on your employees, manage your personnel." ARMs then say "You're personnel is outrageous, cut it back". The shitty BRM will usually then say "You need to clock out at 6, no matter what, and count yourself out for an hour lunch that you will eat at the Callback desk." One small idea can get twisted into some horiffic, abusive practice due to a shitty manager. Or you get the smart manager who will short staff themselves to save the headache of answering the Hours question after an exit interview, and you're life is palatible.

So there you have it: some people succeed by doing the right thing, a some people do it by abusing others. Like it or not, this shit isn't particular to just E. It happens everywhere. Get used to it. You will always run into asshole managers, coworkers, subordinates, etc. They've infiltrated everything, from your corner store to the Whitehouse. Learn how to rise above (beat 'em or join 'em, whatever works for you), stop waiting for the handout or gold star you didn't earn, and remember one truly important thing:

NO ONE IS MAKING YOU FUCKING WORK HERE.

And for all the ABRMs who pose on here as former ARMs with "badass" pharmaceutical rep sales jobs (mostly effeminate dudes and ladies with spectacular racks), I'll be waiting for your posts at failingastrazeneca.com after the Dems give us bullshit national healthcare ;-). There's a reason the Canucks take tour busses over the falls in droves to pay straight cash for doctor's visits and presciptions.