i am sure you can make that it certain urban areas or gain 50- 60 cars after being maxed out. that can surely happen. however i know a former area mgr who walked from 100k as an area mgr because of the above things mentioned. i am sure you will deal longer at that money then you would lower that was my contention. erac would not do that because it would affect there upward movement. as far as promotions based on growth had to have almost ended in the us minus airprorts. abroad i am sure it is high. turnover as a company has got to be close to 60%. that is unbelievable.