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Old 2007-06-05
"West Side Chicanos"
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In response to MAforenterprise remarks I must state that I am very pleased that he/she was not the manager of the enterprise location that I rented from. I recently rented a car under my insurance and the car was vandalized by a local gang. The person keyed the letters, "WSC," into the quarter panel and I reported it to the police and enterprise. The enterprise employee who checked in the car stated it was probably less that my deductible and that loss control would be in touch. I contacted my CC company and they stated they would not cover the loss as the car was paid for by the insurance and me, therefore I had not charged the entire cost of the rental and was not covered. I went to the enterprise office and stated I would like to photograph the damage. They sent me over to the repair shop and authorized my the photo session. The next day I called the enterprise manager and he promised to consult with the repair shop and get back with me with my portion of the repair cost. Enterprise had some additional repair work done (door dings) at the same time as repairing the damage I was held responsible for. The manager insisted I would not be charged for any work beyond the scratches. As it turns out the manager didn't call me back and I had to call him. He again promised to call me with the charges but again didn't call me back. I again called him and he gave me the charges. He stated that the repair shop felt that I would be happy with that charge as the estimated charges were a little higher. I stated it was difficult to be happy about this but that I was willing to pay that sum and asked how I would go about it. He referred me to the regional loss department and I just left that contact a message. If this concludes our business I will not be angry with anyone other than my CC and will close my account with them. In any event I am glad the people I have dealt with so far are not as evasive as you have stated you would be; in that event I would have pursued legal action against enterprise for several omissions during the rental process. I feel that enterprise may legally share some of the responsibility for the loss because they withheld or forgot to mention pertinent information during the initial rental process. In the end this may turn out OK for everyone because of this manager’s forthright and honest handling of the incident. I only hope the individual at the loss department is as courteous and fair as the enterprise employees I have dealt with thus far so that we conclude this unfortunate situation amicably. If you are dealing honestly with the customer why do you feel you have to withhold information pertaining to the loss and repairs? On can force you to disclose the information and but that time everyone has lost confidence in the integrity of the process
You dumb little bitch, why didnt you get the dub the e-chimp offered you? Now, I know how this went:

E-chimp: "Mam we have damage waiver which relieves you of any responsibility of any damages to your vehicle, regardless of fault. Otherwise, you assume all responsibility and must pay your deductible"

Bitch customer: "MY CREDIT CARD COVERS THAT. I DONT NEED THAT SHIT!"

Wellll, I guess your little credit card ISNT so fucking good after all now is it? IS IT ?????
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Old 2007-06-05
W.S.C.
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I can't believe they used a key instead of spraypaint though...
Yeah, they let the slut off easy.
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Old 2007-06-05
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In response to MAforenterprise remarks I must state that I am very pleased that he/she was not the manager of the enterprise location that I rented from. I recently rented a car under my insurance and the car was vandalized by a local gang. The person keyed the letters, "WSC," into the quarter panel and I reported it to the police and enterprise. The enterprise employee who checked in the car stated it was probably less that my deductible and that loss control would be in touch. I contacted my CC company and they stated they would not cover the loss as the car was paid for by the insurance and me, therefore I had not charged the entire cost of the rental and was not covered. I went to the enterprise office and stated I would like to photograph the damage. They sent me over to the repair shop and authorized my the photo session. The next day I called the enterprise manager and he promised to consult with the repair shop and get back with me with my portion of the repair cost. Enterprise had some additional repair work done (door dings) at the same time as repairing the damage I was held responsible for. The manager insisted I would not be charged for any work beyond the scratches. As it turns out the manager didn't call me back and I had to call him. He again promised to call me with the charges but again didn't call me back. I again called him and he gave me the charges. He stated that the repair shop felt that I would be happy with that charge as the estimated charges were a little higher. I stated it was difficult to be happy about this but that I was willing to pay that sum and asked how I would go about it. He referred me to the regional loss department and I just left that contact a message. If this concludes our business I will not be angry with anyone other than my CC and will close my account with them. In any event I am glad the people I have dealt with so far are not as evasive as you have stated you would be; in that event I would have pursued legal action against enterprise for several omissions during the rental process. I feel that enterprise may legally share some of the responsibility for the loss because they withheld or forgot to mention pertinent information during the initial rental process. In the end this may turn out OK for everyone because of this manager’s forthright and honest handling of the incident. I only hope the individual at the loss department is as courteous and fair as the enterprise employees I have dealt with thus far so that we conclude this unfortunate situation amicably. If you are dealing honestly with the customer why do you feel you have to withhold information pertaining to the loss and repairs? On can force you to disclose the information and but that time everyone has lost confidence in the integrity of the process
Fine print sucks... The fine print on the credit card clearly states that all charges on the rental must be made on the credit card for your transaction to be covered by their "insurance." The fine print on the rental contract (last I remembered it was on the back... No one ever reads the back) states that you assume responsibility for the damages unless you purchase the waiver. If you purchase the waiver, then you are covered as long as you don't have the car stolen, intentionally damage the vehicle, off road, tow, do any illegal acts in or with the car, have an unauthorized driver, or DUI **deep breath**. The fact of the matter is you signed the credit card agreement when you accepted the card. The next ccard you get will have the same conditions. You signed the rental agreement and apparantly did not purchase the damage waiver. You accepted the risk from the get go and you rolled snake eyes on the deal. Lesson to be learned: Ask the right questions out of the gate.

That and you must give mad respect to the West Side Chicanos

On a side note, when I worked with the company people complained if an MT of mine was TOO thorough. Apparantly it takes too much time to read an entire rental agreement UNLESS your client damages the vehicle. Damned if you do, damned if you dont.

In hindsight, if you wanted to decline the waiver but had the vehicle damaged you should have asked ERAC to void the billing to the insurance company when you first discovered the artwork of the West Side Chicanos (or it coulda been a student from Wayne State College. You're not from Nebraska, are you?), pay it all with your credit card, then present the invoice to the insurance company for reimbursement. I realize this is not common information (and several inexperienced MT's wouldn't think to fix the problem this way), but store it in you future reference file.
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Old 2007-06-06
100 Miles and Runnin'
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In response to MAforenterprise remarks I must state that I am very pleased that he/she was not the manager of the enterprise location that I rented from. I recently rented a car under my insurance and the car was vandalized by a local gang. The person keyed the letters, "WSC," into the quarter panel and I reported it to the police and enterprise. The enterprise employee who checked in the car stated it was probably less that my deductible and that loss control would be in touch. I contacted my CC company and they stated they would not cover the loss as the car was paid for by the insurance and me, therefore I had not charged the entire cost of the rental and was not covered. I went to the enterprise office and stated I would like to photograph the damage. They sent me over to the repair shop and authorized my the photo session. The next day I called the enterprise manager and he promised to consult with the repair shop and get back with me with my portion of the repair cost. Enterprise had some additional repair work done (door dings) at the same time as repairing the damage I was held responsible for. The manager insisted I would not be charged for any work beyond the scratches. As it turns out the manager didn't call me back and I had to call him. He again promised to call me with the charges but again didn't call me back. I again called him and he gave me the charges. He stated that the repair shop felt that I would be happy with that charge as the estimated charges were a little higher. I stated it was difficult to be happy about this but that I was willing to pay that sum and asked how I would go about it. He referred me to the regional loss department and I just left that contact a message. If this concludes our business I will not be angry with anyone other than my CC and will close my account with them. In any event I am glad the people I have dealt with so far are not as evasive as you have stated you would be; in that event I would have pursued legal action against enterprise for several omissions during the rental process. I feel that enterprise may legally share some of the responsibility for the loss because they withheld or forgot to mention pertinent information during the initial rental process. In the end this may turn out OK for everyone because of this manager’s forthright and honest handling of the incident. I only hope the individual at the loss department is as courteous and fair as the enterprise employees I have dealt with thus far so that we conclude this unfortunate situation amicably. If you are dealing honestly with the customer why do you feel you have to withhold information pertaining to the loss and repairs? On can force you to disclose the information and but that time everyone has lost confidence in the integrity of the process
Crazy props to the eses! Good job holmes picking an e-car to scratch the hell up. Maybe that soccer mom will learn to read her credit card terms! But why does she wanna sue ERAC? Is that what people do in Cali when they fuck up, sue someone else?
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Old 2007-06-07
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Crazy props to the eses! Good job holmes picking an e-car to scratch the hell up. Maybe that soccer mom will learn to read her credit card terms! But why does she wanna sue ERAC? Is that what people do in Cali when they fuck up, sue someone else?
You know, if you read this with an exaggerated Mexican gangbanger accent, this is really quite funny!
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Old 2007-06-07
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Yeah, they let the slut off easy.
That same line could have been used for Paris Hilton
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Old 2007-06-07
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That same line could have been used for Paris Hilton
LOL! Good one. Mussolini, next time you are in Las Vegas, let me know. Beers on me bro!
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Old 2007-06-08
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My girlfriend rented a car from ERAC and was involved in a hit and run (she was rear ended, not her fault and it was MINOR) and the Bitchface ERAC manager told her that she would have to go though her insurance no exceptions and the damage looked like it was in excess of $1000. I saw the damage and you could barely see it. She took the car to a body shop before she returned the car and told the guy what happened and he gave her a quote of around $200. He also said that ERAC is notorious for placing bloated claims on peoples insurance for minor damage and then keeping the money and never repairing the cars and then continuing to rent out the cars they never repair! I will do whatever is in my power to prevent people from doing business with Enterprise rent a wreck. I hate Enterprise.

Ok, so lets get this straight. Enterprise inflates the cost of repair for damaged vehicles and then the insurance companies that give us 70% of our business are then forced to pay for bogus claims? Biting the hand that feeds ya, huh? No, doesn't really work that way. Also, these insurance companies don't just hand over checks left and right to Enterprise every time there is a claim! You think they don't have adjusters come out to verify the damages and write a proper estimate? Also, if a car is damaged, it may just be cosmetic or there may be damage not seen until pulled apart. We have to sell every single one of our cars. If the damage isn't bad enough to put into the shop for a week and lose a weeks worth of revenue we may not shop it and just keep renting it, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't collect on the damage which will now be depreciated from the vehicle once we sell it. We can't have people damage our cars and then take a loss on them when we sell them. I bet you would feel different if that was your personal car.
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Old 2007-06-08
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Ok, so lets get this straight. Enterprise inflates the cost of repair for damaged vehicles and then the insurance companies that give us 70% of our business are then forced to pay for bogus claims? Biting the hand that feeds ya, huh? No, doesn't really work that way. Also, these insurance companies don't just hand over checks left and right to Enterprise every time there is a claim! You think they don't have adjusters come out to verify the damages and write a proper estimate? Also, if a car is damaged, it may just be cosmetic or there may be damage not seen until pulled apart. We have to sell every single one of our cars. If the damage isn't bad enough to put into the shop for a week and lose a weeks worth of revenue we may not shop it and just keep renting it, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't collect on the damage which will now be depreciated from the vehicle once we sell it. We can't have people damage our cars and then take a loss on them when we sell them. I bet you would feel different if that was your personal car.
Relax skippy b3FoR3 Da W3sTsId3 ChIcAn0z bust a cap in your ass or key your car. ERAC only hits the customer pay claims with full force. The insurance companies all have discounted hourly labor charges and get used parts for the e-machines. Besides, a branch employee is not qualified to estimate charges. Their job is to try to collect a deductible up front to make the loss control's job easier and reduce the risk for a branch loss. If overcharged, the customer gets their money back.
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That same line could have been used for Paris Hilton
Not so much...



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