What constitutes career suicide in Group 32

Originally Posted by Unregistered

So, why the hell are you on this site after SIX YEARS? That constitutes a LOSER to me. I guess it gets boring only working 10 days a month. I hate to think what you do with the rest of your "spare" time.

Where did our friend the fireman go? He was so enlightening.

He was a jackass. That is why he hasn't responded to this thread.

What constitutes career suicide in Group 32?

One word: Honesty.
Honesty on all levels, I-III, and in all contexts;

MT's: You, that are the footsoldiers in this big Ponzi scheme, who must face all the bullshit being thrown your way from all fronts, can't be honest with your customers about; where there car is, or that we will not have a certain size car, or any car for that matter, available Friday evening (because like managers say, "Just book'em, we'll handle them!" yeah, right), why they're being charged premium rates for a VW Jetta (Oh, it's an exotic car, see, VW, oooh!), why driving with their insurance is a risk and ours rules (even though at times it isn't), telling them we're gonna take them on a "little trip up the street (and across town) to get their car; with body shop and repair shop customers who were promised a rental no matter what they lack in terms or CC, deposit, insurance, driver's licenses even ("LOOK, YOU ARE JUST TOO GHETTO FOR ME TO TRUST YOU WITH A CAR!!!), but with whom we just don't wanna lose their customers, God forbid; with our friends who have better jobs, lying and telling them how great our job "really" is, when deep down you want to yell at them and beg them to save you and help you get a real job. You can't be honest with any of that, because then you're not "Bleeding Green". Well I'd rather bleed red to prove to myself that I am a real person and not some mindless robot sweating it out in 100 degree heat in my shirt and tie washing cars and not even being able to roll up my sleeves or undue my tie for relief because some fat ass condescending, skeevy AssMan, who cares more about his silver pen (you know who GP 32, WW), thinks that would look "unprofessional". Put it simply, you can't be honest, period, or else it's ESQi, and career suicide.

Ass. Man.: You can't be honest with yourself, first and foremost, or else you must admit that the plan you've made has fallen apart:
If you've been an ass't. man. for more than 2-3 years, and I'm not talking about just being with the company 2-3 years, I'm talking about being an ass't. for over 2-3 years, and not been promoted yet, chances are you're not gonna be anytime soon. Try as much and as hard you want, be the best damn frontrunner in the region for who knows how many months, gain MT loyalty, but forget it. You're best hope is to make a "lateral" movement (car sales, truck rental, fleet, etc.), or pray for mass attrition (or another slapping incident in Orlando, "Movement! Movement!"). You may be sitting there asking "WHY? WHAT (OR WHOM) DO I HAVE TO DO TO MOVE AHEAD ALREADY? WHEN LORD, WHEN, IS IT MY TURN??? I'VE DOEN ALL THAT'S RIGHT!" The sad part is that it's maybe because you just haven't kissed the right ass, laughed at the right person's corny joke, rooted for a certain AM's college team (even though you went to a rival school), didn't go to the right happy hour (because, SURPRISE, you do have a life other than ECRAP!!!), or maybe you vented the obvious branch problems to an AM who didn't want to hear it for the umpteenth time because they're running late for lunch at McCormick and Schmicks with the RRM to talk about their own promo. But don't be mad at yourself...maybe that's just not you, and you should be applauded for that. Maybe you don't believe in the whole ECRAP "Yes man" mentality, and are clinging on to the "merit based" hope that's gotten you at this point, but just not put you over yet. Then you can't be honest with yourself, because your eyes will open, and that is ECRAP career suicide

Managers and above: Well, have you ever heard of a manager (okay, maybe one or two, in a GROUP) who got where he was because he was honest with his employees at the beginning: "This job is gonna ruin your best suits, shoes, ties, your eating habits, make you a (?)-addict, make you cynnicle, expose you to all kinds of harassment, expose you to the lowest of the low (in business management and in customers), have you out in the sun (or rain) most of the day, and teach you how to lie your way to the top! Whatta ya say?" Of course not, retention numbers would fall even lower, and morale would be dismal.
Or honest with his own bosses: "Yup my (branch, area, region, group) is on the skids , my employees are quitting on me left and right, their's fraternization with management and the females, my ESQi is at about 69%, I've got two conversions I personally signed off on and will not go look for myself, oh and my reserves are at a negative, but we're working on that. Now, how about my promotion?". All they can pray for is that the quarterly's match with their estimates and slick presentations. If this was a public company, do you think the stockholders would be happy with the company image and management style? You think honesty isn't career suicide at this level???

Originally Posted by Unregistered

What constitutes career suicide in Group 32?

One word: Honesty.
Honesty on all levels, I-III, and in all contexts;

MT's: You, that are the footsoldiers in this big Ponzi scheme, who must face all the bullshit being thrown your way from all fronts, can't be honest with your customers about; where there car is, or that we will not have a certain size car, or any car for that matter, available Friday evening (because like managers say, "Just book'em, we'll handle them!" yeah, right), why they're being charged premium rates for a VW Jetta (Oh, it's an exotic car, see, VW, oooh!), why driving with their insurance is a risk and ours rules (even though at times it isn't), telling them we're gonna take them on a "little trip up the street (and across town) to get their car; with body shop and repair shop customers who were promised a rental no matter what they lack in terms or CC, deposit, insurance, driver's licenses even ("LOOK, YOU ARE JUST TOO GHETTO FOR ME TO TRUST YOU WITH A CAR!!!), but with whom we just don't wanna lose their customers, God forbid; with our friends who have better jobs, lying and telling them how great our job "really" is, when deep down you want to yell at them and beg them to save you and help you get a real job. You can't be honest with any of that, because then you're not "Bleeding Green". Well I'd rather bleed red to prove to myself that I am a real person and not some mindless robot sweating it out in 100 degree heat in my shirt and tie washing cars and not even being able to roll up my sleeves or undue my tie for relief because some fat ass condescending, skeevy AssMan, who cares more about his silver pen (you know who GP 32, WW), thinks that would look "unprofessional". Put it simply, you can't be honest, period, or else it's ESQi, and career suicide.

Ass. Man.: You can't be honest with yourself, first and foremost, or else you must admit that the plan you've made has fallen apart:
If you've been an ass't. man. for more than 2-3 years, and I'm not talking about just being with the company 2-3 years, I'm talking about being an ass't. for over 2-3 years, and not been promoted yet, chances are you're not gonna be anytime soon. Try as much and as hard you want, be the best damn frontrunner in the region for who knows how many months, gain MT loyalty, but forget it. You're best hope is to make a "lateral" movement (car sales, truck rental, fleet, etc.), or pray for mass attrition (or another slapping incident in Orlando, "Movement! Movement!"). You may be sitting there asking "WHY? WHAT (OR WHOM) DO I HAVE TO DO TO MOVE AHEAD ALREADY? WHEN LORD, WHEN, IS IT MY TURN??? I'VE DOEN ALL THAT'S RIGHT!" The sad part is that it's maybe because you just haven't kissed the right ass, laughed at the right person's corny joke, rooted for a certain AM's college team (even though you went to a rival school), didn't go to the right happy hour (because, SURPRISE, you do have a life other than ECRAP!!!), or maybe you vented the obvious branch problems to an AM who didn't want to hear it for the umpteenth time because they're running late for lunch at McCormick and Schmicks with the RRM to talk about their own promo. But don't be mad at yourself...maybe that's just not you, and you should be applauded for that. Maybe you don't believe in the whole ECRAP "Yes man" mentality, and are clinging on to the "merit based" hope that's gotten you at this point, but just not put you over yet. Then you can't be honest with yourself, because your eyes will open, and that is ECRAP career suicide

Managers and above: Well, have you ever heard of a manager (okay, maybe one or two, in a GROUP) who got where he was because he was honest with his employees at the beginning: "This job is gonna ruin your best suits, shoes, ties, your eating habits, make you a (?)-addict, make you cynnicle, expose you to all kinds of harassment, expose you to the lowest of the low (in business management and in customers), have you out in the sun (or rain) most of the day, and teach you how to lie your way to the top! Whatta ya say?" Of course not, retention numbers would fall even lower, and morale would be dismal.
Or honest with his own bosses: "Yup my (branch, area, region, group) is on the skids , my employees are quitting on me left and right, their's fraternization with management and the females, my ESQi is at about 69%, I've got two conversions I personally signed off on and will not go look for myself, oh and my reserves are at a negative, but we're working on that. Now, how about my promotion?". All they can pray for is that the quarterly's match with their estimates and slick presentations. If this was a public company, do you think the stockholders would be happy with the company image and management style? You think honesty isn't career suicide at this level???

post of the decade right here
cheers to you

You hit the nail on the head! Honesty is not a core value, or has any value @ ECRAP. I have seen many leave, get dismissed, or written off because they were honest. Honest about a lack of advancement, lack of work-life balance, lack or morale, lack of people, of cars, etc.....

If you have a backbone and are honest with yourself, you would get up and run........run fast!!!!

I finally did. And I am doing 100% better. ;)

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Regarding United Way donations, be aware that usually less than half of the money you give goes to the program. A relative of mine works at a charity organization that receives United Way funds. They receive 45% of what is initially given.

They will always tell you that at least 90% goes directly to the "program." What they don't tell you is that their funky accounting techniques designate "program" expenses as salaries (including the people that come to ERAC to give you the hard sell), advertising, finders fees, etc. So keep that in when they come around in the next few months.

I'm not a big fan of UW so I gave directly to my church through the ERAC United Way because I would receive a statement from them. They received 90% of my contributions and 90% of the company's match. I recommend donating to a charity with which you are closely affiliated to make sure you know that your money is getting where it needs to go.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I'm not a big fan of UW so I gave directly to my church through the ERAC United Way because I would receive a statement from them. They received 90% of my contributions and 90% of the company's match. I recommend donating to a charity with which you are closely affiliated to make sure you know that your money is getting where it needs to go.

You know what would be better, if you donated directly to the church and not through the United Way. That way 100% of the money donated goes to the church. Enterprise in turn should match your donation directly to the church and not through the United Way.

I refuse to donate to/through the United Way for any cause because I do not feel it is my reponsibility to help subsidize the advertising budget for a company that generates $9 billion dollars a year in revenue.

Originally Posted by GROUP 32 SUCKS ASS

Putting your resume on Monster.

Asking for your lunch.

Asking for your FLEX day.

Complaining that you don't recieve your lunch or FLEX day.

Not going to company events.

Asking to use your choice days.

Asking for a Monday or Friday off.

Taking a vacation during the summer or holiday season.

Questioning company practices.

Following the Core Values.

Not pretending to be best friends with your Area Manager.

Having a family.

Putting your real friends over your ERAC "friends".

Not willing to tell customers a Sentra is a premium car.

(I know I'm missing a lot, feel free to add some)

How about telling the customers the truth?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

You know what would be better, if you donated directly to the church and not through the United Way. That way 100% of the money donated goes to the church. Enterprise in turn should match your donation directly to the church and not through the United Way.

I refuse to donate to/through the United Way for any cause because I do not feel it is my reponsibility to help subsidize the advertising budget for a company that generates $9 billion dollars a year in revenue.

I do donate directly to the church through tithing. However, UW @ erac is a forced contribution. (Not saying that is right at all.) It was just if you are forced to give, which erac employees are, you can at least give to someplace where you know the money will be received and make sure that it is the correct amount. Don't get me started on how long it actually takes for UW to get the donation to your specified charity: 5-7 months for checks to be sent on avg over the last several years.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

bitter much?

Hello.... have you perused this site much?

Everyone on here, currently or formerly employed by ERAC is bitter.