Who is Golden Handcuffs?

Originally Posted by unregistered2

Dealer,
I know you pretty well. And no, I'm not going to identify myself, because that is what this site is all about. Whatever the originator of this site intended, it has become a place where current and ex-employees could come and get some stuff off of their collective chests. It is sometimes easier, especially for current employees, to say what they think when they are unidentified.

You said "Personally, I know that it's much easier to look at someone else's flaws than my own, and to commiserate anonymously on a web forum is probably fun for some. However, as a person who errs every day, I would have a serious problem exposing what I perceived to be someone else's flaws on a public website for all to see." Well maybe we are all just not as good and riotous as you are. Maybe we should all go to church with you this Sunday to pray for our poor, pitiful, loser souls. It's just like you to sugar coat your condescension , so that half the people reading this don't even realize that you are talking down to them.

I actually agree with you about attacking people personally. I have even posted on here a few times sticking up for my friends that I feel have been characterized unfairly. However, the majority of these attacks have been on reputations those people have built for themselves.

I pride myself on never having been talked about on this site, because I felt the same way you did about managing people. I truly cared about their carreers, I didn't blow smoke up people's asses, and I tried to treat everyone with respect. I wasn't perfect, but those were some of my goals. And I was lucky enough to leave ERAC with some life long friends. However, if I had proclaimed myself " the quarters king of 62" ...slept around...made a drunken fool of myself on a regular basis at business functions...lied to people....or fucked with their carreers at my own will....I guess I would be fair game on this site too.

You have to agree that the people making these personal attacks are probably very angry and hurt. I understand putting your blood, sweat, and tears into the dream you started this all for, only to realize the people you work for don't hold that dream in the same esteem. Do I participate in the personal slams? No. Do I understand the need for other people to do that? Yes. It's cathartic! I'm not going to come on this site and judge people for how they choose to get over the time they speant at ERAC. And I guess I'm just plain weak. I'm not going to lie, when someone calls TJ a midget, I have to giggle out loud sometimes. I tried not to be self riotous when I was there, and I'm not going to do it now that I'm gone.



I do agree with you also that this site is addictive, but I won't say it's unproductive. If it gives people the opportunity to let go of whatever shit they still feel for ERAC, or lets them know they aren't alone in that feeling. Then it's productive for them.

Sorry, Big Pappi...we all can't be as good as you.

Well, I can say I am proving my own point by even responding. And I should n't have said "this site is unproductive", that wasn't what I meant - I meant that it makes ME unproductive, but it is addictive. Here I am going through my day working quietly, and I come back to read the discussion board - now I've been on here 3 times in my first week.

The question I asked in part 1 was why people slam others using slammee's initials? For instance, if you are attacking some guy named Billy Johnsdoggle, why put "BJ" on the site? It makes me think too much.

If you think I'm self-righteous and condescending by saying basically that I wouldn't want to see my personal flaws aired on this site, and the fact that I have them prevents me from doing it to someone else, that is your perogative - I respect that.

Of course I've had a problem with some people listed on here at times as well during my time dealing with them. I consider myself friends with Guz to this day and I still talk to him sometimes to catch up, but when someone writes "Keep on winning! #1 in the country!" it cracks me up - hilarious. "King of Quarters" - awesome - Dicky is probably the best quarters player I've ever seen.

If you know me well, you most likely have been in a management capacity at some point with ERAC. Therefore, you also know you can't please everyone, you have to make tough decisions that make people mad (including firing people), and being unpopular just comes with the territory. We are both fortunate to not have enemies that come to the site and rip on us - I'm sure they are out there.

But, some of the attacks are plain vicious and undeserving.

By the way, whoever you are, I'd love to talk to you since you know me well. Obviously we worked together in some capacity - that's why I'm saying it would be great to know who is on here so I could catch up with people I don't regularly get to see or hear from. I can understand people who are attacking others not wanting to identify themselves, but people like yourself who have thoughtful ideas and arguments, what do you have to lose? Send me an email to bdeal@brdealgroup.com - obviously, you know me well enough to know that I wouldn't identify you on this board. This only thing I miss about ERAC is that fact that I lost touch with alot of cool people.

As far as church goes, I honestly need to get back in the habit.

Later,

Dealer

He has to have the appearance of self-righteousness, especially when his life is all about money, appearance, and materialism. People like that can never truly be humble and feel "blessed" because when it comes down to it, they are not so virtuous. Money and aesthetics rule them. Look at what guys like this are married to. Look what type of modest life they live. Let him talk down to you. It just proves what an ass he is.

You obviously don't know the guy very well. No, I won't identify myself, but I worked in the Heartland a while ago, and I can say the people in that Top 5/Bottom 5 got there for a reason. Deal, Mark Cox, Jeff Bradley, etc are people with integrity that were liked and respected by people that worked for them. Go ask people that remember them, and people still with the company that worked for them or with them - you won't find too many negative comments. If you have a problem with someone having financial success inside or outside of enterprise, and then buying a nice house in a nice neighborhood, sounds like your problem.

[lifeafter62]

Dealer...........do ya really want to remind us about 'wife bashing'. Dont think you want to open yourself up to that one.

He has to have the appearance of self-righteousness, especially when his life is all about money, appearance, and materialism. People like that can never truly be humble and feel "blessed" because when it comes down to it, they are not so virtuous. Money and aesthetics rule them. Look at what guys like this are married to. Look what type of modest life they live. Let him talk down to you. It just proves what an ass he is.


------------Are you kidding me. The fact that you felt the need to throw this comment out there just show how sad and pathetic your life is. The guy came on here to laugh, catch up with old eracers and share some thoughts. Mostly positive thoughts at that. But in your sad mind, you have to twist it around as a man talking down to you.

Brad, it seems people who are successful out of ERAC are not welcome here either.

I guess you are not welcome here if:
1. You are successful at ERAC
2. You are successful outside of ERAC

That pretty much leaves ERAC employees who are "non-performers", that don't have the guts to walk away.

and

Non-successful former Erac employees who blame their current pathetic life on how they where treated at ERAC.

** GUESS WHAT - the reason you are unsuccessful at life is because you have a miserable attitude and can not put things behind you. It is all about KHARMA

I just happened upon this thread as it was highlighted when I came onto the site this morning. I come on here because I am trying to get a feeling for teh climate in my region. Don't know any of these people cuz i'm not from this particular group. But as a reasonably intelligent person (or so my wife tells me), let me try to dissect this thread after reading it top to bottom:

- there is speculation that some former eracian is posting under the moniker "golden handcuffs"

- the guy under speculation comes on and says "not me, but man this site can be cruel" - guy has never been here before, maybe didn't know about the site - definitely wonders why no one tells who they are (keep reading, fella, this site is packed with cowards top to bottom - not talking about the current employees - obviously, they have reason to keep identities private)

- guy says something someone reads into a little bit and now HE'S the target

- couple defenders, couple detractors

Dude, here is my advice to you....you left the company...you look like you put it behind you long ago and are doing just fine for yourself......run...far, far, away from this board. You cannot fight this crowd. The person who's post was highlighted and got me on this thread was completely correct. if you came on here to catch up with some former co-workers - it WILL NOT HAPPEN. they won't let it happen because they are too busy spewing venom - step in front of it and you get hit with it.

There are a few types of people that post on this board:

1) bitter former employees
2) bitter current employees
3) non-bitter former employees (a rare breed - bordering on extinction)
4) defenders of the faith - those that bleed green til they die or retire (at which point they fit into category 1, 2, or 3)

5) customers (also rare nowadays)

May the good Lord help you if you are not type 1 or 2 - this is their place to vent and commiserate.

Type 3 is so rare because they are too busy succeeding in life to post on here.

Type 4 are what are known as "lurkers" of the board - people who are successful and happy in their positions, but can't help reading and posting every once in a while. In this case, a type 4 decided to post.

Sorry group 62, for invading on your pity party, if only for a moment.

I think we need a:

Glad I Left Enterprise, but loved it.com

Am I gald I am gone? yes.

Was it great while it lasted? yes.

At that time in my life, it was fantastic. Drinking, learning, and yes making some decent money - because our business was fun and successful back then.

- Schu's party's in the basement
- The old holiday parties
- Disco Bowling
- 2 AM Class A's
- Bitching about Phil
- Hungover Saturday at the office

Life was good. Then we had to grow up.

And I truely feel I would not have the job I had today, the home I have today and the family I had today, had it not been for Enterprise.

www.gladilefteracbutlovedit.com is available according to whois!

What a positive site that would be :) Here would be some highlights:

People would talk about their ERAC experiences from the standpoint of the skills they gained that helped them get to that next step in their lives.

You could feature people who had been successful after ERAC once a month or so in an interview-type format.

They could talk about the circumstances that surrounded their leaving if they wanted.

There could be a jobs resource on there for people looking to hire happy ex-eracians.

They could re-live the fun times on the board

There would be a resource so people could contact each other and go disco bowling, party in this "Schu" guy's basement, or whatever else you wanted to do to re-live the fun times - if only once in a while.

It's a cool idea. Notice how if you get some ERAC-folk together and start thinking, something positive can come from it?

I think we should make the URL shorter though.

Originally Posted by Unregistered1999

I think we need a:

Glad I Left Enterprise, but loved it.com

Am I gald I am gone? yes.

Was it great while it lasted? yes.

At that time in my life, it was fantastic. Drinking, learning, and yes making some decent money - because our business was fun and successful back then.

- Schu's party's in the basement
- The old holiday parties
- Disco Bowling
- 2 AM Class A's
- Bitching about Phil
- Hungover Saturday at the office

Life was good. Then we had to grow up.

And I truely feel I would not have the job I had today, the home I have today and the family I had today, had it not been for Enterprise.

Man that was well put! There were so many great times and great friends I have to this day, that I look at ERAC as such an integral part of my history - though I wouldn't go back, I wouldn't trade the good times and the lifelong friends for anything.