Steve Thomas Fired?

[pharmarep]

Originally Posted by betteroffnow

Pharmarep you are a little whiny liberal dipshit. Not one person one here can show anyone one shred of credible evidence of lying from the current administration. There is no hard evidence only your lib talking points. As for us being in a red state you are damned right and we feed your fat ass. The only thing you are right on is that ERAC sucks but other than that you are a shrill little left-wing socialist, hippy.

here comes the labels. No evidence becuase the judiciary branch can't get to it because Bush is using executive privelage. I guess it's not cheating unless you get caught, right? typical bullshit. let's get enraged at Clinton 12 years ago and avoid the fact that this president is the worst president ever with a 2.0 gpa during college and the lowest IQ of any president ever! Not a hippy, don't do drugs. not a socialist, I'm a capitalist that wants a socialistic healthcare. Nice labelling though. that's how this country has become divided is because of people like you on both sides that label each other. please don't breed.

[betteroffnow]

once again you are wrong the president did not have a 2.0 GPA in college it was actually 3.14 and his IQ is higher than most democrats most notably John Kerry. That's right folks John Kerry actually had lower grades and a lower IQ than our president. Bill Clinton envoked executive privelege 27 times and pardoned 263 people during his presidency and fired 26 federal prosecutors and not a peep out of one democrat. Can you say Mark Rich or Susan Mcdougal Pharmadork? Once again you have been owned.

[pharmarep]

Originally Posted by betteroffnow

once again you are wrong the president did not have a 2.0 GPA in college it was actually 3.14 and his IQ is higher than most democrats most notably John Kerry. That's right folks John Kerry actually had lower grades and a lower IQ than our president. Bill Clinton envoked executive privelege 27 times and pardoned 263 people during his presidency and fired 26 federal prosecutors and not a peep out of one democrat. Can you say Mark Rich or Susan Mcdougal Pharmadork? Once again you have been owned.

youre facts are completely wrong and stop saying you own people when you don't get both sides of the story. look it up, asshole. Bush = lowest IQ among presidents. Clinton = highest IQ among presidents.

anyway, here's wher I just can't believe people like you actually exist and can't think of the circumstance. The executive branch has the athority to pardon anybody he/she wants, but it's a certain procedure that allows for investigations after the pardon to find out of any wrong doing. Clinton pardoned people, just like Bush before him, Reagan, and so on. The difference is that Clinton never pardoned anybody that was on charges that was from his own staff. Scooter Libby was in the Bush admin and he got pardoned. Do you think if you lied under oath to a grand jury that you'd get pardoned? Bush won't even allow investigations into this matter. Clinton allowed every pardon to be investigated. what is bush trying to hide? He didn't consult the attornys involved in the case, which is what Clinton had done in his pardons. If all you got is "clinton did it too" then you really need to wake up and smell the shit that comes out of the white house.

[pharmarep]

I know you'll attack my grammar, probably. so let me say before you sink to that level on a chat board that it was a typo. I'm fully aware of grammar. sorry to spoil your comeback.

[pharmarep]

I'd hate to resort to your tactics of cutting and pasting. But, if you really are that much of a clone, then here it is:

In a report published Monday, the Lovenstein Institute of Scranton, Pennsylvania detailed its findings of a four month study of the intelligence quotient of President George W. Bush. Since 1973, the Lovenstein Institute has published its research to the education community on each new president, which includes the famous "IQ" report among others.

According to statements in the report, there have been twelve presidents over the past 50 years, from F. D. Roosevelt to G. W. Bush who were all rated based on scholarly achievements, writings that they alone produced without aid of staff, their ability to speak with clarity, and several other psychological factors which were then scored in the Swanson/Crain system of intelligence ranking.

The study determined the following IQs of each president as accurate to within five percentage points:
147 Franklin D. Roosevelt (D)
132 Harry Truman (D)
122 Dwight D. Eisenhower (r)
174 John F. Kennedy (D)
126 Lyndon B. Johnson (D)
155 Richard M. Nixon (r)
121 Gerald Ford (r)
175 James E. Carter (D)
105 Ronald Reagan (r)
098 George HW Bush (r)
182 William J. Clinton (D)
091 George W. Bush (r)

The six Republican presidents of the past 50 years had an average IQ of 115.5, with President Nixon having the highest IQ, at 155. President G. W. Bush was rated the lowest of all the Republicans with an IQ of 91. The six Democrat presidents had IQs with an average of 156, with President Clinton having the highest IQ, at 182. President Lyndon B. Johnson was rated the lowest of all the Democrats with an IQ of 126.

No president other than Carter (D) has released his actual IQ, 176. Among comments made concerning the specific testing of President GW Bush, his low ratings were due to his apparent difficulty to command the English language in public statements, his limited use of vocabulary (6,500 words for Bush versus an average of 11,000 words for other presidents), his lack of scholarly achievements other than a basic MBA, and an absence of any body of work which could be studied on an intellectual basis. The complete report documents the methods and procedures used to arrive at these ratings, including depth of sentence structure and voice stress confidence analysis.

"All the Presidents prior to George W. Bush had a least one book under their belt, and most had written several white papers during their education or early careers. Not so with President Bush," Dr. Lovenstein said. "He has no published works or writings, so in many ways that made it more difficult to arrive at an assessment. We had to rely more heavily on transcripts of his unscripted public speaking."

The Lovenstein Institute of Scranton Pennsylvania think tank includes high caliber historians, psychiatrists, sociologists, scientists in human behavior, and psychologists. Among their ranks are Dr. Werner R. Lovenstein, world-renowned sociologist, and Professor Patricia F. Dilliams, a world-respected psychiatrist.

This study was commissioned on February 13, 2001 and released on July 9, 2001 to subscribing member universities and organizations within the education community.

Are you kidding me douchebag pharmarep. Did you look at the headline. STEVE THOMAS FIRED!!!! God are you that obsessed with a lame duck president? Maybe you are gay and in love with the dub. Get over it! Get back on the talking point dumbass.
Choose other sources to pull your info from.
Bush Low IQ Myth Debunked

The Devil can quote scripture.

Get back on point.

By the way, doesn't working for big bad capitalist pharma make you a hypocrite?

[betteroffnow]

The Lovenstein Institute of Scranton Pennsylvania think tank includes high caliber historians, psychiatrists, sociologists, scientists in human behavior, and psychologists. Among their ranks are Dr. Werner R. Lovenstein, world-renowned sociologist, and Professor Patricia F. Dilliams, a world-respected psychiatrist.

This study was commissioned on February 13, 2001 and released on July 9, 2001 to subscribing member universities and organizations within the education community.


The Truth

Origins: No, this isn't a real news report, nor does it describe a real study. There isn't a "Lovenstein Institute" in Scranton, Pennsylvania (or anywhere else in the USA), nor do any of the people quoted in the story exist, because this is just another spoof that was taken too seriously.

The piece is simply a political jibe, made obvious by its ranking all the Democratic presidents of the last several decades as having high (even exceptionally high) IQs, while ranking all the Republican presidents from the same time frame as average to moderate in intelligence, with the current president and his father assigned below-average figures placing them at the very bottom of the list. (President Nixon is the sole exception, presumably because his reputation is still so tarnished that not even a high IQ measurement can yet redeem him in the court of public opinion.)

[Some noticeable errors: Although the study includes Franklin D. Roosevelt, who died in office in 1945, the report is described as covering presidents in office "over the past 50 years." Also not true is the claim that "all the Presidents prior to George W. Bush had a least one book under their belt" -- some of them authored no books until after becoming president, and George W. Bush did have a book to his credit before being elected president, 1999's A Charge to Keep. Plus, if there's a "Swanson/Crain" system for ranking intelligence, nobody else seems to have heard of it.]

In any case, IQ is a dodgy enough concept even when measured by tests designed for the purpose -- trying to guess not just relative rankings but specific IQ scores based solely on writings and speeches is bound to be error-prone. Based on President George H. Bush's extemporaneous speech-making, for example, he couldn't "speak with clarity" to save his life, but he was clearly far more intelligent than the insultingly low IQ assigned to him above. And a recent article reports President Kennedy's IQ as 119, far below the genius-level 174 ascribed to him here.

As obvious as this joke was, at least two publications were taken in by it: The Guardian [London] and The Southland Times [New Zealand]. Both ran the "Presidential I.Q." tale as a factual item (on 19 July and 7 August 2001 respectively). The Associated Press publicized The Guardian's error on 12 August, moving The Guardian to post a retraction on 14 August, and U.S. News & World Report clearly reported the I.Q. item as a hoax on 20 August, 2001.

Pharmadork owned again!!!!!!!!!! HAHAHAHAH this is too easy!