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Old 2006-12-12
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Default Does anyone know any decent solicitors?

can anyone help?
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Default Re: Does anyone know any decent solicitors?

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can anyone help?
There are plenty of good solicitors around.
Assuming that you want to speak to one regarding an employment grievance, the one AC is using seems to be doing a good job.
The problem is always the cost - it is advisable to join a Union (Amicus, GMB, etc) as they can support and represent you in any disciplinary or grievance procedure and will employ specialist solicitors and barristers as required - all for £150 per year or so. For that money, you would get around one hour's worth of a decent solicitor's time on your own.
Enterprise's employment practices are based on the likelyhood that most new graduate employees are too skint to pay for a solicitor and too conservative to join a Union.
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so why don't we all join a union? or failing that, start our own?
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A lot of decent companies give you the option to join a union when you start with them. Strange that ERAC doesn't don't you think?
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Default Re: Does anyone know any decent solicitors?

nope not strange why would they want a union when there are plenty of college grads willing to work for cheap. cheap lobor equals no union. employees rise up
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nope not strange why would they want a union when there are plenty of college grads willing to work for cheap. cheap lobor equals no union. employees rise up
Remember you can join a Union without asking the employer who cannot stop you (that's against the law - in case anyone from ERAC is reading this and does not understand UK employment law).
The employer can refuse to recognise the union for negotiating rights (up to a limit) but cannot refuse an employee to be represented or accompanied by a union official for grievance or disciplinary matters.

Join a Union! - sounds like a no-brainer to me!
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Remember you can join a Union without asking the employer who cannot stop you (that's against the law - in case anyone from ERAC is reading this and does not understand UK employment law).
The employer can refuse to recognise the union for negotiating rights (up to a limit) but cannot refuse an employee to be represented or accompanied by a union official for grievance or disciplinary matters.

Join a Union! - sounds like a no-brainer to me!
its quite simple, if you are treated unfairly (which is quite likley) the union will represent you, and if neccesary they will fund your legal representation, unions enjoy nothing more than taking an arrogant, ingnorant employer to task. Most unions have a PR department who also arrange publicity.

if you work at erac, you would be very foolish not to join one!
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Amicus or GMB are both £9.75 a month and can be joined online. Well worth the money and just look at ERAC's record against people with union support - even the worst of people can get back in or stay in with a combination of union backing and ERAC idiocy!
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All very true - I'm gonna join Amicus tomorrow and bring a case of my own. You don't need to have been a member of the union for any period of time before they will represent you so just pay your £10 and bring a case against ERAC. It's the simplest way to get them to change. The more people who join, and the more who bring actions gainst them, the more likely we are to have a fair deal.

Examples of areas on which a union case may be brought against ERAC:

- Overtime pay - a decent rate is needed.
- Definition of 'occasional' overtime.
- Breaks - for lunch, and between our marathon driving sessions.
- The numerous other ways we are screwed out of money, eg. on mobile phone use, employee competitions which don't pay out, vehicle damage etc.

Please, tell as many people as possible to spend the £10 and join the union [it's best most people belong to one union so I'm gonna go to Amicus unless anyone suggests a better alternative?]. And please please please raise your concerns with a GM with a union rep. present, and take the matter as far as it needs to be taken.
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shut up moaning you whining little bitch go and wash a car and sell some CDW and smile at the customer and get out of my face you jumped up little prick
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