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Originally Posted by Unregistered121

£30,000 / 12 = £2500 per month
£2500 / 200hrs = £12.5 per hour

Im sure all shelf stackers earn £12.50 an hour FUCKWIT!!

3 things (at least) wrong with your maths / logic fucknut.

1) 30K?? at very best this is only a couple of managers, and i mean a few -a handfull in u4, how about the majority of BM's , jim wigglesworth and all of the trainee's/ am's on much less?

2) in the real world dick head, we have an average of 4.3 weeks in a month / 30.5 days, not the 28 days you suggest (too many corp re-writes).

3) nice presumption of a flat 50 hours!!, like this happens regularly.

so, lets try this again..( without the artistic licence granted by eracs bull shit culture)

£17500 pa, (1458.33 / month)

58 hour weeks x 4.3 (weeks in average month) = 249.40 hours / month

1458.33 divided by 249.40 is £5.84 / hour,

so, yes FUCKWIT, it is the same as shelf stackers, in fact this is less than a lot of shelf stackers,

and before you retort, all full of the green bull shit, yes, this figure of 17.5K may be higher, yes, you may work less than 60 hours a week, BUT- we are dealing with graduates, who have spent 3 years studying for this, do they not deserve better pay??

ultimatley all this exercise demonstrates is that erac is NOT the great graduate opportunity is proports to be, it is in fact a big con, getting graduates to work stupid hours, for low pay on the promise of a dream, which for the vast majority of people is a nightmare.

Aldi pay £8.00 per hour for shelf stacking

Originally Posted by cynic

3 things (at least) wrong with your maths / logic fucknut.

1) 30K?? at very best this is only a couple of managers, and i mean a few -a handfull in u4, how about the majority of BM's , jim wigglesworth and all of the trainee's/ am's on much less?

2) in the real world dick head, we have an average of 4.3 weeks in a month / 30.5 days, not the 28 days you suggest (too many corp re-writes).

3) nice presumption of a flat 50 hours!!, like this happens regularly.

so, lets try this again..( without the artistic licence granted by eracs bull shit culture)

£17500 pa, (1458.33 / month)

58 hour weeks x 4.3 (weeks in average month) = 249.40 hours / month

1458.33 divided by 249.40 is £5.84 / hour,

so, yes FUCKWIT, it is the same as shelf stackers, in fact this is less than a lot of shelf stackers,

and before you retort, all full of the green bull shit, yes, this figure of 17.5K may be higher, yes, you may work less than 60 hours a week, BUT- we are dealing with graduates, who have spent 3 years studying for this, do they not deserve better pay??

ultimatley all this exercise demonstrates is that erac is NOT the great graduate opportunity is proports to be, it is in fact a big con, getting graduates to work stupid hours, for low pay on the promise of a dream, which for the vast majority of people is a nightmare.

You really are stupid arent you. You dont work 4.3 weeks in a month. alternate saturdays, sundays off, flex?! So that destroys your stupid formula. This will also explain that you cant work out that Jim earnt over £30k last year clown. Enterprise doesnt 'promise a dream'. It rewards hard work and success. Maybe if you had the ability to do the job properly you might earn a few more quid.
Remember, the hours are mentioned during the interview stage, the pay is advertised before you even apply, so if you didnt like it, why take the job in the first place. Just because you have a degree (probably a 2:2 at best in your case) doesnt mean you should be paid a high slary straight away. You have got to prove yourself. Look forward to you scanning my bread when i do my weekly shop. Every little helps

so obvious who wrote that thread!


Very True though.

any company in life will have positives and negatives. There have been some thick employees who just dont know how to run a branch.

let you all into a secret . You need to actually manage your branches not just write tickets and fill in a few reports!

I think I better step in here with the facts. You are right my friend as mangers you can earn a pretty decent wage and when it brakes down into hours it is still very competetive. Here are the facts.

The average wage for a branch manager in the uk over the last finacial year was £21480

£21,480 over 12 months was £1790 before tax

The average number of hours (reported) per month by branch managers accross erac was 241.5 (or 2898 per year counting holidays taken as 48 hours per week)

meaning 1790/241.5 is £7.41 per hour.

I hope that answers your argument.

Originally Posted by Unregistered121

You really are stupid arent you. You dont work 4.3 weeks in a month. alternate saturdays, sundays off, flex?! So that destroys your stupid formula. This will also explain that you cant work out that Jim earnt over £30k last year clown. Enterprise doesnt 'promise a dream'. It rewards hard work and success. Maybe if you had the ability to do the job properly you might earn a few more quid.
Remember, the hours are mentioned during the interview stage, the pay is advertised before you even apply, so if you didnt like it, why take the job in the first place. Just because you have a degree (probably a 2:2 at best in your case) doesnt mean you should be paid a high slary straight away. You have got to prove yourself. Look forward to you scanning my bread when i do my weekly shop. Every little helps

Just want to pull you up on some of your points here.

1) if erac rewards hard work and success why did the most succesful manager in u4 (simon Baldwin) never get promoted.

2) if erac rewards hard work and success why has it continued to overlook successful british talents and bring in americans to do there job. A trainee could have done a better job than pdf so where is the justification.

3) if erac rewards hard work and success how come People that have enjoyed success in the past (ie Jim wigglesworth and pete frost) are now on their way back down the ladder.

4) if erac rewards hard work and success and the promise of a dream why did it reduce the number of area mangers by two then wait two years to create a new opening

5) If erac rewards hard work and success walk me through payback and how that works.

6) If erac rewards you for hard work and success ask them about how many days off you are entitled to after a loved one dies.

7) If erac rewards hard work and dedication why is it that everyone who has been premoted in the past 3 years at somepoint had frosty or pdf/s cock in their mouths. While others Ie jaime warf, steve woodhouse, spencer hibbert, John humberstone been passed by.

8) as regards the interview and what i was told, here is a list of the following things that were not mentioned. (convieniently)

-Payback
-Drug tests (legal?)
-Sackings (on average 5 per year)
-Retention (about 17% wow)
-60 hour week (i was told about 50)
-Memo's (I have signed 8,564,325 since I joined)
-Saturdays (was told 1 in 3 or 4)
-Area mangers can swear and even threaten you
-You can't swear at area managers
-British people will not get the top jobs
-Pay rises below the rate of inflation
-Working christmas eve (absolute joke)
-working new years eve (absolute fucking joke)
-You can be forced to move to a branch within 50 miles of your house with no financial reward.
-£300 excess for every accident
-Regular driving assesments
-Not interviewing your own staff but someone that will rarely work with that person (ie area mangers and city mangers) deciding who works in your branch
-cleaning the branch toilets
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Originally Posted by Hr Insider

I think I better step in here with the facts. You are right my friend as mangers you can earn a pretty decent wage and when it brakes down into hours it is still very competetive. Here are the facts.

The average wage for a branch manager in the uk over the last finacial year was £21480

£21,480 over 12 months was £1790 before tax

The average number of hours (reported) per month by branch managers accross erac was 241.5 (or 2898 per year counting holidays taken as 48 hours per week)

meaning 1790/241.5 is £7.41 per hour.

I hope that answers your argument.

its does, thank you, so this is 19pence an hour less than a shelf stacker at aldi. for much much more shit.

mmm ... let me think this one through!

Originally Posted by Unregistered121

You really are stupid arent you. You dont work 4.3 weeks in a month. alternate saturdays, sundays off, flex?! So that destroys your stupid formula. This will also explain that you cant work out that Jim earnt over £30k last year clown. Enterprise doesnt 'promise a dream'. It rewards hard work and success. Maybe if you had the ability to do the job properly you might earn a few more quid.
Remember, the hours are mentioned during the interview stage, the pay is advertised before you even apply, so if you didnt like it, why take the job in the first place. Just because you have a degree (probably a 2:2 at best in your case) doesnt mean you should be paid a high slary straight away. You have got to prove yourself. Look forward to you scanning my bread when i do my weekly shop. Every little helps

YOU really are the supid one, the point is an attempt was being made to divide monthly salary by average hours, using the week as a metric, the original (green idiot poster) used 4 weeks (28 days), to get a true picture you need to divide it by the average weeks in a month.

didnt think this one through did we? sucking all that green dick has damaged your already slow brain.