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Old 2008-03-28
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Default Re: I was fired for this sending an email!!!

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Sadly, you do not. This is something that no professional would openly write to his/her co-workers. You have blatantly antagonized and demoralized your fellow co-workers and superiors. While your intentions were good, you simply cannot openly criticize your co-workers and especially your superiors openly via email while at the same time give yourself accolades. This is not true leadership, but an example of a brat seeking desperately for attention. I hate to be so harsh on you, but you really should read some of Dale Carnegie's books on effective communication and leadership skills.

Let me give you a breakdown of where you went in many places:

Despite our disagreements, I hold you in up most respect and thank you for your help and training.
This guy is your manager, yet you openly admitted that you two have disagreements where you do not respect him as your superior, your leader.

I feel that Chad leaving our branch has arrived with poor timing.
Here you have questioned your openly with defiance that you think your vice president and regional managers have done a poor job in their decisions.

I've always heard and it is my understanding that your team is only as strong as it's leaders. The team looks to the leader for guidance and knowledge. Corey, I know that you are going to be a great branch manager and I have a lot of trust and confidence in you. You are not my part of my concern. I am concerned about several things though. As I was told to do by my former managers, I will present my concerns as an "impartial viewer."
This is the kind of conversation that you would have 1 on 1 privately with a co-worker, not openly via email to your superiors going out of your authority range to approve or disapprove of your superiors and co-workers.

I do not have faith in our new assistant manager.
Probably the worst thing you could have said. People don't become leaders by openly antagonizing and criticizing someone on your team, whining to your regional manager and area manager. You're not taking the initiative to be a leader, but instead, you're only asking to be resented and distrusted by your co-workers, especially that assistant manager.

However, I don't feel that an assistant manager should require as much training as a new hire. I realize that this sounds harsh and overly critical, but there have been many occasions where I know more in general.
Again, you feel, you feel, you feel! Me, me, me! A vice president would even write such an email and look at all the authorities that he has.

I definitely do not feel that our new assistant was the best hire for the job. A branch manager needs to have strong reliable assistants. I have yet to see a leadership attitude. I have seen more come out of 5 month old MT.
Say that in a 1 on 1 conversation with your regional manager or area manager if you feel that you really need to address it, but you don't openly condescend your branch about how pathetic everyone else BESIDES you.

There is nothing but criticism is almost every sentence you write, yet you're just a "cartech"? I would fire you too if I was your boss. I hope you learned a valuable lesson from this, and, I'd hate to be *overly critical* of you, but *I feel* that you would have been terrible in a position of management.
Just a few thoughts to sum up on what you said:
1) YOU don't know the situation in its entirety.

2) Opinions are like a-holes, everyones got one and they usually stink (yours is no exception)

3) It was sent to 1 MA, 1 Manager, and 1 RM. No one else even knows about the letter.

4) I did provide a solution, fire the MA.

5) Cartechs, while lowly and seemingly unimportant, can make any branch a living heck for all the sales staff. Despite the option they will probably be fired for their actions, they are nonetheless still a crucial part of the whole team. Not the most important or least important, just important.

6) I knew just as much about renting as any MT or MA, I was still in school so therefore I couldn't be either so I knew what I was talking about. I wasn't some random cartech with an attitude just spouting off.

7) ERAC just wants to employ people that won't speak up. I fortunately have a large set of kahunas and wasn't going to bend over and take one anymore. ERAC wants you to pretend like nothing shady is going on so they can ream you and take advantage of you and you won't say anything.

But whatever, it doesn't matter, I'm never working for them again. I'm happy now. All this is with you, 32AATopIPEandDub, is a pissing contest. I'm done. Like I said, opinions usually stink.
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Old 2008-03-28
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32AATopIPEandDub has an average reputation (10+)
Default Re: I was fired for this sending an email!!!

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Just a few thoughts to sum up on what you said:
1) YOU don't know the situation in its entirety.

2) Opinions are like a-holes, everyones got one and they usually stink (yours is no exception)

3) It was sent to 1 MA, 1 Manager, and 1 RM. No one else even knows about the letter.

4) I did provide a solution, fire the MA.

5) Cartechs, while lowly and seemingly unimportant, can make any branch a living heck for all the sales staff. Despite the option they will probably be fired for their actions, they are nonetheless still a crucial part of the whole team. Not the most important or least important, just important.

6) I knew just as much about renting as any MT or MA, I was still in school so therefore I couldn't be either so I knew what I was talking about. I wasn't some random cartech with an attitude just spouting off.

7) ERAC just wants to employ people that won't speak up. I fortunately have a large set of kahunas and wasn't going to bend over and take one anymore. ERAC wants you to pretend like nothing shady is going on so they can ream you and take advantage of you and you won't say anything.

But whatever, it doesn't matter, I'm never working for them again. I'm happy now. All this is with you, 32AATopIPEandDub, is a pissing contest. I'm done. Like I said, opinions usually stink.
You have just proven my point. If you can't take my "constructive" criticism, how do you expect others to take yours, especially when you're a car tech? There is a vast difference between arrogantly crossing the line and assertively addressing and offering a solution to the problem.

Other than that, I do agree with you how Enterprise is run. It's not a great professional working environment, that's for sure. You asked if you have grounds for a lawsuit, I'm just letting you know where your position stands.
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Old 2008-04-11
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Default Re: I was fired for this sending an email!!!

The primary question is, is this the first time that you have been "insubordinate"? E preaches that we should always complain up, not down, and that is exactly what you did, so you're in the right there, it is just a matter of how much other documentation they have on you. Did you ever have a sit down about any significant events, or sign anything agreeing that you had a conversation w/ management about anything; anything noted in reviews, ect. Policy is generally to address and have documentation on the same issue w/ the same employee at least 3 times (verbal warning, SEL documentation, and immediate correction notification) prior to termination. As far as a law suit is concerned, doubtful you have grounds depending on what state you work in (at will or not) and the fact that Enterprise does not like to fire people, so when it does, they generally have all their ducks in a row to cover their butts. Good luck though.
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