PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION 2008

Originally Posted by Grover

Where's the excitement for McCain's VP pick???

Are you republicans happy with the pick? I think the Dems are very happy!

My excitement for Gov. Palin is my pants, she's pretty hot!

[Ballsac T. Baghar]

Finally, men can now vote with their Johnson in mind!! Women voted for Clinton because they found him sexually attractive but men have never been able to vote with their penis before, until now! Ferraro was practically a man in terms of sexual attractiveness so she does not count. Governor Palin is a former beauty queen!

[Mr. Electricity]

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Yeah, too bad 40 million other Americans saw a smaller paycheck now than in 01. They will be the ones casting the ballots. Try again pal!

just because you cannot hold down a job and are a fuckup,
why make the rest of us pay for your welfare?

Originally Posted by Grover

Please tell me what specifics your hearing from the other guy. Please provide links for confirmation. Thank you.

Bush/McCain have failed to do everything they promised and you want more McCain. He's against drilling in Alaska and adds a VP that's for it?? He is so old, rich and senile that he is unaware of how many houses he owns?? He feels that his 2nd in command should be a VP that is 20 months removed from being a mayor of a town of 7,000? He thinks the US will be fighting in Iraq for another 100 years?? At what cost??

If Obama sucks then tell me how McCain doesn't suck more....I'd vote for Obama's optimism over McCain's past actions and his specific plans for what hasn't been working.

What is it with you women?? Why is gender only relevant when the woman in politics is a liberal?? Can't you see the hypocrisy in your comments? If women vote for Hillary they are progressive and they are voting for the person not the woman. But, if someone like Condi Rice gets appointed to high office or Sarah Palin gets support as a VEEP candidate then those who appointed them are just pandering to the "cunt vote" not the quality of the person. How vulgar and narrow. With that same logic then when most African Americans vote for Barack Obama, they are all voting for him only because he is black not the most qualified candidate. Of course, some people are voting for Obama strictly because he is black and some will vote for Paling strictly because she is a woman. But, most will also look at substance. Also, you criticize Palin for talking about her husband but it is normal and perfectly fine for Obama, Biden and McCain to have paraded their spouses and families all over the country with them to demonstrate that they are family men. What a double standard! For men, you say they are family centered, but for Palin she is considered as pandering to the Christian right. Those are such sexist remarks and views.

I am an independent and I am trying to look at the issues for both candidates. Obama and McCain are both courting the Hillary supporters. I think that McCain made a bold move in choosing Sarah Palin as his running mate. It was strategic not hypocritical. You and women like you are the hypocrits!!!

To rebut rumors, Palin says daughter, 17, pregnant - Yahoo! News

They fuck young up in Alaska.

Originally Posted by 32AATopIPEandDub

No, what Obama is promising is a good long-term plan. It is quite evident because he rejects the ridiculous gas tax holiday and bombing Iran. I'd say that's an excellent start. Smart and knowledgeable Americans know damn well that taxes will rise in the future. Inflation will continue to get worse. Rather than looking for artificially stimulated short term fixes, we should be planning for a permanent solution to these problems. Our image has been tarnished all around the world and we need someone RESPECTABLE with diplomatic skills.

India and China are on the rise. Rather than invading, destroying, pillaging, and occupying third world countries for oil interests, we should be investing in change, in renewable alternative energy sources. We need to bring out valuable exports back to our economy instead of depending so much on corrupt Middle Easterners for oil.

There is hope for America. Under Capitalism, recessions and change in plans are all a part of the game. Let's wisely plan for the future now.

Spread the word.....


This is something you should be
aware of so you don't get blind-sided.
This is really going to catch a lot
of families off guard. It should
make you worry.

Proposed changes in taxes after 2008 General election:


CAPITAL GAINS TAX

MCCAIN
0% on home sales up to $500,000
per home (couples) moccasin does not
propose any change in existing
home sales income tax.

OBAMA
28% on profit from ALL home sales

How does this affect you?
If you sell your home and make a profit, you
will pay 28% of your gain on taxes.
If you are heading toward retirement
and would like to down-size your
home or move into a retirement
community, 28% of the money you
make from your home will go to taxes. This
proposal will adversely affect the
elderly who are counting on the income
from their homes as part of their retirement income.

DIVIDEND TAX

MCCAIN 15% (no change)

OBAMA 39.6%

How will this affect you?
If you have any money invested in stock
market, IRA, mutual funds,
college funds, life insurance, retirement
accounts, or anything that pays
or reinvests dividends, you will now
be paying nearly 40% of the money
earned on taxes if Obama become president.
The experts predict that 'higher
tax rates on dividends and capital gains
would crash the stock market yet
do absolutely nothing to cut the deficit.

INCOME TAX

MCCAIN (no changes)

Single making 30K - tax $4,500
Single making 50K - tax $12,500
Single making 75K - tax $18,750
Married making 60K- tax $9,000
Married making 75K - tax $18,750
Married making 125K - tax $31,250

OBAMA
(reversion to pre-Bush tax cuts)
Single making 30K - tax $8,400
Single making 50K - tax $14,000
Single making 75K - tax $23,250
Married making 60K - tax $16,800
Married making 75K - tax $21,000
Married making 125K - tax $38,750


Under Obama your taxes will
more than double!
How does this affect you? No explanation
needed. This is pretty
straight forward.

INHERITANCE TAX

MCCAIN 0% (No change, Bush repealed this tax)

OBAMA Restore the inheritance tax

How does this affect you? Many families
have lost businesses,
farms and ranches, and homes
that have
been in their families
for generations because they could not
afford the inheritance tax.
Those willing their assets to loved
ones will not only lose them to
these taxes.

NEW TAXES BEING PROPOSED BY OBAMA

* New government taxes proposed on
homes that are more than
2400 square feet

* New gasoline taxes (as if
gas weren't high enough already)

* New taxes on natural resources
consumption (heating
gas, water, electricity)

* New taxes on retirement accounts
and last but not least....

* New taxes to pay for socialized medicine
so we can receive the same
level of medical care as other
third-world countries!!!

Originally Posted by Mr. Electricity

just because you cannot hold down a job and are a fuckup,
why make the rest of us pay for your welfare?

Your on welfare???

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Your on welfare???

I'll give you some government cheese from scrotum sac if you are really hungry.

Originally Posted by Robert

It was neat to see Obama promise the following:

1) To end homelessness
2) Provide free health care to all
3) Free college tuition
4) Catch Bin Laden (since of course, McCain won't try to)
5) End our dependence on foreign oil
6) Unite Congress

Any Obama supporters wanna tell me how exactly he personally will do this since he started all of his sentences with "I will........"?

By Fatimah Ali
Philadelphia Daily News

AMERICA is on the brink of a long, harsh and bitterly cold winter, with a looming recession that the GOP won't even admit to.
The policies of the current White House have brutalized our economy, yet the wealthiest think that everything is fine.

Rich Republicans just don't understand that millions are suffering. But many of their working class do, and they're beginning to abandon their own party.

When lifelong Republican Barney Smith told the Democratic convention that he'd vote for Barack Obama for president, he gave pause to even the most conservative members of his party.

Smith, like many disgruntled working-class Republicans, is ready to turn his back on his party because he's having such a hard time providing for his family. Like others, Smith fell victim to the loss of 3.2 million American jobs as factories closed or their work was outsourced to cheap labor markets overseas.

Poet Langston Hughes once wrote, "Hold fast to dreams, for if dreams die, Life is a broken-winged bird that cannot fly, Hold fast to dreams, for if dreams go, life is a barren field, frozen with snow."

Many wealthy folks live in a dream state and ignore people like Smith, whose tale of personal woe preceded Obama's acceptance speech.

He opposes John McCain because, he says, America can't afford another four years of failed GOP policies that have extended $200 billion in tax cuts to big corporations but not to the nation's 100 million families.

Our national debt has soared from $5.6 trillion to $9.6 trillion under Bush. The Republicans have overstayed their welcome and dragged us into a nightmare that must end soon, or this nation may be headed for chaos.

Obama tugged on the nation's heartstrings when he challenged McCain's tough talk and told the truth about the current policies.

Critics of the GOP believe that a four-year extension of the Bush administration will be disastrous. People are struggling, and the privileged are so out of touch they pretend it's OK that children go hungry.

Over the last eight years, we've lost 3.2 million jobs, and started a war that's cost trillions. The lies and deceit that got us into Iraq in the first place are just the tip of the iceberg and have ruined America's reputation across the globe.

Meanwhile, our economy continues to crumble, while crime, homelessness and poverty continue to soar.

Despite the fact that thousands of immigrants risk their safety to come here because this country may offer them better opportunities, the truth is that poverty lives right here in our own backyard.

Suffering is widespread as the gap between rich and poor widens. The Bush administration doesn't get it and neither does McCain. He is so out of touch that he hasn't a clue how many homes he owns, while the working class struggles to hold on to one.

The Democrats desperately need many more voters like Smith to cross party lines in order to secure the White House. Obama says electing him to the nation's highest office will not only help restore America's moral standing globally, but will lift the nation's low morale and improve our declining economy.

He promises to cut taxes for 95 percent of American workers and ease the burden for millions of families. And I believe him, although his critics say he's out of touch with the working class and blast him for not having a lineage that includes slavery.

But just because his ancestors never wore shackles, and he has paid off the student loans from his elite education doesn't mean he doesn't have compassion. Or that he doesn't understand the pain of those who live in dire poverty, who've lost their homes, who want yet can't afford college, and who lack health insurance.

His acceptance speech indicated that, unlike McCain, Obama gets it because hard times aren't so far behind him that his memory's been erased.

If McCain wins, look for a full-fledged race and class war, fueled by a deflated and depressed country, soaring crime, homelessness - and hopelessness!

Plenty of Americans would rather stay in their dream state than to recognize the poverty sweeping across the country, right here, right now.

Obama understands that people are suffering. Every week, prices go up at the supermarket, and people are unable to feed their families. It already is dark and stormy for millions, who can't even afford pencils, book bags and lunch money for their children.

But when Obama wins the White House, we may just see a revolution that can turn the tide and improve this nation for everyone, not just a select few.

And I expect him to keep his word.*

[Robert]

Originally Posted by Eat This Robert!

By Fatimah Ali
Philadelphia Daily News

AMERICA is on the brink of a long, harsh and bitterly cold winter, with a looming recession that the GOP won't even admit to.
The policies of the current White House have brutalized our economy, yet the wealthiest think that everything is fine.

Rich Republicans just don't understand that millions are suffering. But many of their working class do, and they're beginning to abandon their own party.

When lifelong Republican Barney Smith told the Democratic convention that he'd vote for Barack Obama for president, he gave pause to even the most conservative members of his party.

Smith, like many disgruntled working-class Republicans, is ready to turn his back on his party because he's having such a hard time providing for his family. Like others, Smith fell victim to the loss of 3.2 million American jobs as factories closed or their work was outsourced to cheap labor markets overseas.

Poet Langston Hughes once wrote, "Hold fast to dreams, for if dreams die, Life is a broken-winged bird that cannot fly, Hold fast to dreams, for if dreams go, life is a barren field, frozen with snow."

Many wealthy folks live in a dream state and ignore people like Smith, whose tale of personal woe preceded Obama's acceptance speech.

He opposes John McCain because, he says, America can't afford another four years of failed GOP policies that have extended $200 billion in tax cuts to big corporations but not to the nation's 100 million families.

Our national debt has soared from $5.6 trillion to $9.6 trillion under Bush. The Republicans have overstayed their welcome and dragged us into a nightmare that must end soon, or this nation may be headed for chaos.

Obama tugged on the nation's heartstrings when he challenged McCain's tough talk and told the truth about the current policies.

Critics of the GOP believe that a four-year extension of the Bush administration will be disastrous. People are struggling, and the privileged are so out of touch they pretend it's OK that children go hungry.

Over the last eight years, we've lost 3.2 million jobs, and started a war that's cost trillions. The lies and deceit that got us into Iraq in the first place are just the tip of the iceberg and have ruined America's reputation across the globe.

Meanwhile, our economy continues to crumble, while crime, homelessness and poverty continue to soar.

Despite the fact that thousands of immigrants risk their safety to come here because this country may offer them better opportunities, the truth is that poverty lives right here in our own backyard.

Suffering is widespread as the gap between rich and poor widens. The Bush administration doesn't get it and neither does McCain. He is so out of touch that he hasn't a clue how many homes he owns, while the working class struggles to hold on to one.

The Democrats desperately need many more voters like Smith to cross party lines in order to secure the White House. Obama says electing him to the nation's highest office will not only help restore America's moral standing globally, but will lift the nation's low morale and improve our declining economy.

He promises to cut taxes for 95 percent of American workers and ease the burden for millions of families. And I believe him, although his critics say he's out of touch with the working class and blast him for not having a lineage that includes slavery.

But just because his ancestors never wore shackles, and he has paid off the student loans from his elite education doesn't mean he doesn't have compassion. Or that he doesn't understand the pain of those who live in dire poverty, who've lost their homes, who want yet can't afford college, and who lack health insurance.

His acceptance speech indicated that, unlike McCain, Obama gets it because hard times aren't so far behind him that his memory's been erased.

If McCain wins, look for a full-fledged race and class war, fueled by a deflated and depressed country, soaring crime, homelessness - and hopelessness!

Plenty of Americans would rather stay in their dream state than to recognize the poverty sweeping across the country, right here, right now.

Obama understands that people are suffering. Every week, prices go up at the supermarket, and people are unable to feed their families. It already is dark and stormy for millions, who can't even afford pencils, book bags and lunch money for their children.

But when Obama wins the White House, we may just see a revolution that can turn the tide and improve this nation for everyone, not just a select few.

And I expect him to keep his word.*

The last 8 years have been pretty damn good to Michelle and Barack, perhaps they are part of the problem too then?