PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION 2008

Originally Posted by Unregistered

To rebut rumors, Palin says daughter, 17, pregnant - Yahoo! News

They fuck young up in Alaska.

Obama's mother had him when she was 18, she was 3 months knocked up when she was married. Besides, Dems have always said that life is not at conception so basically it is a non-issue according to them until the child is born.

Here's Joe Biden's reaction to John McCain's pick of Sarah Palin as his vice-presidential running mate. "There's a gigantic difference between John McCain and Barack Obama and between me and I suspect my vice presidential opponent," he said in Toledo, Ohio. Pause for the punch-line. "She's good looking." It's the way he tells ‘em, folks.

Originally Posted by Robert

The last 8 years have been pretty damn good to Michelle and Barack, perhaps they are part of the problem too then?

Hey, you forgot good ol' Shooter Dick. He started in 2000 with an estimated worth of some $5 million now he is worth well over $100 million. Who says wars are bad?

[Robert]

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Hey, you forgot good ol' Shooter Dick. He started in 2000 with an estimated worth of some $5 million now he is worth well over $100 million. Who says wars are bad?

I do not know that the $100 million figure is true, where is your proof? On the other hand, Michelle Obama's salary tripled after Barack became a Senator and her hospital was the beneficiary of $7 million dollars in earmarks soon after. Pretty good ROI I would say!

[Robert]

Originally Posted by 32AATopIPEandDub

Republicans have already fucked up enough. That's why most of the seats in the House of Representatives are democrats now. People are worried that too much power to the democrats may be bad. It doesn't really matter who wins the election, drastics changes are coming our way. Too bad most Americans like Robert are too delusional to realize that we have fucked up and we're on the downward slope right now because of it.

At least with Obama elected, we get a better image all around the world. Better negotiation power and diplomacy in the Middle East, Africa, and with China. The old days of going to war and having other nations go to war for your own country's profits are over. People all over the world are slowly learning how to live prosperously together and the U.S. better know how to play the game under the rules.

ST. PAUL, Minn. - Sen. Joe Lieberman, the Democratic vice presidential pick eight years ago, on Tuesday criticized Barack Obama's national security record and hailed Republican candidate John McCain's, a clear boost to the GOP.

Playing his former party's spoiler, Lieberman called McCain — not the Democratic nominee Obama — the best choice to lead the country forward. The Democrat-turned-Independent said that while Sen. Obama was voting to cut off funds for troops in Iraq, McCain took the unpopular position to support a surge in troops.

"Because of that, today, our troops are at last beginning to come home, not in failure, but in honor," Lieberman says in excerpts that were released in advance of his speech Tuesday to the Republican National Convention.

Lieberman was scheduled to address the second night of the Republican meeting just eight years after he stood before a cheering throng at the Democratic National Convention in Los Angeles and accepted the nomination as Al Gore's running mate.

These days, he often calls himself an independent. But in excerpts released ahead of his address to the GOP crowd, he referred to himself as a Democrat who's opted to put politics aside during wartime.

"I'm here tonight because John McCain is the best choice to bring our country together and lead our country forward. I'm here because John McCain's whole life testifies to a great truth: being a Democrat or a Republican is important. But it is not more important than being an American," he said.

Lieberman also sought the Democratic presidential nomination in 2004, but lost badly to John Kerry. Two years later, he lost a Democratic nomination for another term in Connecticut in 2006, then recovered quickly to win re-election as an independent.

Although his vote in the Senate gives the Democrats a narrow majority, he has riled former party members again this year by criticizing Obama and endorsing his longtime friend McCain.

Former New Jersey Gov. Thomas Kean said Lieberman's speech would be the most interesting of the night, and shows tremendous courage.

"He's going to be punished by the Democratic Party and he knows it. But he wants to do it because he thinks he's the best candidate for president," Kean said.

Lieberman was also believed to be among those on McCain's vice presidential shortlist before the candidate selected Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin last week. Bedrock Republicans reacted strongly against the political moderate.

His address was originally scheduled for opening night, but was cut along with most of the program when McCain opted to dramatically scale back the convention because of Hurricane Gustav.

[Robert]

Originally Posted by Robert

ST. PAUL, Minn. - Sen. Joe Lieberman, the Democratic vice presidential pick eight years ago, on Tuesday criticized Barack Obama's national security record and hailed Republican candidate John McCain's, a clear boost to the GOP.

Playing his former party's spoiler, Lieberman called McCain — not the Democratic nominee Obama — the best choice to lead the country forward. The Democrat-turned-Independent said that while Sen. Obama was voting to cut off funds for troops in Iraq, McCain took the unpopular position to support a surge in troops.

"Because of that, today, our troops are at last beginning to come home, not in failure, but in honor," Lieberman says in excerpts that were released in advance of his speech Tuesday to the Republican National Convention.

Lieberman was scheduled to address the second night of the Republican meeting just eight years after he stood before a cheering throng at the Democratic National Convention in Los Angeles and accepted the nomination as Al Gore's running mate.

These days, he often calls himself an independent. But in excerpts released ahead of his address to the GOP crowd, he referred to himself as a Democrat who's opted to put politics aside during wartime.

"I'm here tonight because John McCain is the best choice to bring our country together and lead our country forward. I'm here because John McCain's whole life testifies to a great truth: being a Democrat or a Republican is important. But it is not more important than being an American," he said.

Lieberman also sought the Democratic presidential nomination in 2004, but lost badly to John Kerry. Two years later, he lost a Democratic nomination for another term in Connecticut in 2006, then recovered quickly to win re-election as an independent.

Although his vote in the Senate gives the Democrats a narrow majority, he has riled former party members again this year by criticizing Obama and endorsing his longtime friend McCain.

Former New Jersey Gov. Thomas Kean said Lieberman's speech would be the most interesting of the night, and shows tremendous courage.

"He's going to be punished by the Democratic Party and he knows it. But he wants to do it because he thinks he's the best candidate for president," Kean said.

Lieberman was also believed to be among those on McCain's vice presidential shortlist before the candidate selected Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin last week. Bedrock Republicans reacted strongly against the political moderate.

His address was originally scheduled for opening night, but was cut along with most of the program when McCain opted to dramatically scale back the convention because of Hurricane Gustav.

Charles Schumer, the senior Senator from New York, begs to differ. In fact, most Democrats are furious with Lieberman.

"I like Joe Lieberman, but that's a big mistake for him," Schumer said. "To be pro-war and to have his views on the issues, everyone respects that. But you don't go over to the other side."

[FailingEnterpriseAdmin]

Originally Posted by Robert

I do not know that the $100 million figure is true, where is your proof? On the other hand, Michelle Obama's salary tripled after Barack became a Senator and her hospital was the beneficiary of $7 million dollars in earmarks soon after. Pretty good ROI I would say!

I agree that does look like politics at work.

[Robert]

Originally Posted by FailingEnterpriseAdmin

I agree that does look like politics at work.

As always.

[Grover]

Originally Posted by Robert

ST. PAUL, Minn. - Sen. Joe Lieberman, the Democratic vice presidential pick eight years ago, on Tuesday criticized Barack Obama's national security record and hailed Republican candidate John McCain's, a clear boost to the GOP.

Playing his former party's spoiler, Lieberman called McCain — not the Democratic nominee Obama — the best choice to lead the country forward. The Democrat-turned-Independent said that while Sen. Obama was voting to cut off funds for troops in Iraq, McCain took the unpopular position to support a surge in troops.

"Because of that, today, our troops are at last beginning to come home, not in failure, but in honor," Lieberman says in excerpts that were released in advance of his speech Tuesday to the Republican National Convention.

Lieberman was scheduled to address the second night of the Republican meeting just eight years after he stood before a cheering throng at the Democratic National Convention in Los Angeles and accepted the nomination as Al Gore's running mate.

These days, he often calls himself an independent. But in excerpts released ahead of his address to the GOP crowd, he referred to himself as a Democrat who's opted to put politics aside during wartime.

"I'm here tonight because John McCain is the best choice to bring our country together and lead our country forward. I'm here because John McCain's whole life testifies to a great truth: being a Democrat or a Republican is important. But it is not more important than being an American," he said.

Lieberman also sought the Democratic presidential nomination in 2004, but lost badly to John Kerry. Two years later, he lost a Democratic nomination for another term in Connecticut in 2006, then recovered quickly to win re-election as an independent.

Although his vote in the Senate gives the Democrats a narrow majority, he has riled former party members again this year by criticizing Obama and endorsing his longtime friend McCain.

Former New Jersey Gov. Thomas Kean said Lieberman's speech would be the most interesting of the night, and shows tremendous courage.

"He's going to be punished by the Democratic Party and he knows it. But he wants to do it because he thinks he's the best candidate for president," Kean said.

Lieberman was also believed to be among those on McCain's vice presidential shortlist before the candidate selected Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin last week. Bedrock Republicans reacted strongly against the political moderate.

His address was originally scheduled for opening night, but was cut along with most of the program when McCain opted to dramatically scale back the convention because of Hurricane Gustav.

Michael Moore responds to Lieberman:

(Last night, during his primetime speech from the podium at the Republican National Convention, Senator Joe Lieberman made the following statement: "... if John McCain is just another partisan Republican, then I'm Michael Moore's favorite Democrat. And I'm not. And I think you know that I'm not.")

Wednesday, September 3rd, 2008

Dear Joe:

John McCain IS just another partisan Republican -- so that must mean you ARE my favorite Democrat!

But how can you be my favorite Democrat when you are no longer a Democrat? This is very confusing. I was in the middle of taking out the garbage and, all of a sudden, there you were, trash-talking me in front of thousands of cheering (mostly) white people on TV.

What is it with you and your Republican friends always bringing me up? Can't you stop thinking about me? It's starting to sound like a fetish! Stop it! Four years ago at the last Republican Convention, John McCain, in his convention speech, also trashed me, calling me a "disingenuous filmmaker" because I called all of you out in "Fahrenheit 9/11." The crowd at Madison Square Garden went berserk. McCain didn't know I was sitting above him in the press box, and the crowd wouldn't stop screaming at me, so I flashed them the "Big L" loser sign and, well, nine of New York's finest had to help me get out of there alive.

With all the problems facing the world, why is valuable time being wasted reviewing a movie and attacking a filmmaker? And now you, Joe, tonight. Do you think you're energizing the "base" by attacking me? Better take a look at the scoreboard. While your side has spent years trying to make me the boogeyman, let's see how it's worked:

** 2006 Congressional elections: Republicans lose 30 seats in the House and 6 seats in the Senate;

** States That Have Lost a Republican Governor (and elected a Democrat) since 2002: Kansas, Montana, Wyoming, Arizona, New Mexico, Colorado, Arkansas, Kentucky, Oklahoma and Tennessee -- EACH ONE OF THEM A RED STATE!;

** Latest Gallup Poll: Obama hit 50% yesterday for the first time for either candidate, 8 points ahead of McCain!

Do you see the trend?

Putting me in your convention speeches, attacking me nonstop on talk radio and Fox News -- and thinking that this helps you -- shows just how out of touch you all are.

Two-thirds of the country agree with my position on the war, two-thirds of the country agree with my position on a single-payer universal health care system, two-thirds believe in some form of gun control -- name the documentary, pick the issue, and the American public agrees with Michael Moore. So get over me, will ya? You're only hurting yourself. And I've got to finish taking out the garbage.

"... if John McCain is just another partisan Republican, then I'm Michael Moore's favorite Democrat. And I'm not. And I think you know that I'm not." Now click your heels together and say, "There's no place like home on the Republican minority side of the aisle."

Yours,
Michael Moore
MMFlint@aol.com

[Robert]

Originally Posted by Grover

Michael Moore responds to Lieberman:

(Last night, during his primetime speech from the podium at the Republican National Convention, Senator Joe Lieberman made the following statement: "... if John McCain is just another partisan Republican, then I'm Michael Moore's favorite Democrat. And I'm not. And I think you know that I'm not.")

Wednesday, September 3rd, 2008

Dear Joe:

John McCain IS just another partisan Republican -- so that must mean you ARE my favorite Democrat!

But how can you be my favorite Democrat when you are no longer a Democrat? This is very confusing. I was in the middle of taking out the garbage and, all of a sudden, there you were, trash-talking me in front of thousands of cheering (mostly) white people on TV.

What is it with you and your Republican friends always bringing me up? Can't you stop thinking about me? It's starting to sound like a fetish! Stop it! Four years ago at the last Republican Convention, John McCain, in his convention speech, also trashed me, calling me a "disingenuous filmmaker" because I called all of you out in "Fahrenheit 9/11." The crowd at Madison Square Garden went berserk. McCain didn't know I was sitting above him in the press box, and the crowd wouldn't stop screaming at me, so I flashed them the "Big L" loser sign and, well, nine of New York's finest had to help me get out of there alive.

With all the problems facing the world, why is valuable time being wasted reviewing a movie and attacking a filmmaker? And now you, Joe, tonight. Do you think you're energizing the "base" by attacking me? Better take a look at the scoreboard. While your side has spent years trying to make me the boogeyman, let's see how it's worked:

** 2006 Congressional elections: Republicans lose 30 seats in the House and 6 seats in the Senate;

** States That Have Lost a Republican Governor (and elected a Democrat) since 2002: Kansas, Montana, Wyoming, Arizona, New Mexico, Colorado, Arkansas, Kentucky, Oklahoma and Tennessee -- EACH ONE OF THEM A RED STATE!;

** Latest Gallup Poll: Obama hit 50% yesterday for the first time for either candidate, 8 points ahead of McCain!

Do you see the trend?

Putting me in your convention speeches, attacking me nonstop on talk radio and Fox News -- and thinking that this helps you -- shows just how out of touch you all are.

Two-thirds of the country agree with my position on the war, two-thirds of the country agree with my position on a single-payer universal health care system, two-thirds believe in some form of gun control -- name the documentary, pick the issue, and the American public agrees with Michael Moore. So get over me, will ya? You're only hurting yourself. And I've got to finish taking out the garbage.

"... if John McCain is just another partisan Republican, then I'm Michael Moore's favorite Democrat. And I'm not. And I think you know that I'm not." Now click your heels together and say, "There's no place like home on the Republican minority side of the aisle."

Yours,
Michael Moore
MMFlint@aol.com

I know Mike, the Dems have had Congress for 2 years now, have more governors and most big city mayors. You guys are already in power so any complaining you do only comes back to bite you in your fat ass!