When will McCain dump Palin?

[Dom182]

Originally Posted by Grover

He's as qualified as an imprisoned soldier who has aligned himself with Bush 90% of the time over the last 8 years.
He's more qualified than an old, 4 time cancer stricken man when faced with his first big decision of who should be his second in command picks an unqualified, backwoods, small-town Governer who can't even face questions from the press let alone Al Qeada, Putin, Iran or repair the economy!

Grover, Grover, so what about Obama either voting with the liberal ticket 100% of the time or not voting at all. Gotta love that present vote. Everyone bags on McCain, at least McCain has broken with the party 10% of the time.

As for Palin, everyone touts how she is an unqualified pick. Obama is an unqualified pick. At least Palin is not the top of the ticket. At least Palin has ran a state as the Governor. As for the state bieng lightly populated, didn't you once tell me that population shouldn't matter, yes you did, when I made the point that the number of people insured under the state program pales in comparison to the number we need to insure. So why now does it matter that she was governor of a lightly populated state. They still have the same problems as other states, just a smaller scale.

The fact is Obama has only the slimmest qualifications for the job. If you were the board of directors of a company and were hiring a CEO his resume wouldn't even make the first cut.

Originally Posted by Dom182

Grover, Grover, so what about Obama either voting with the liberal ticket 100% of the time or not voting at all. Gotta love that present vote. Everyone bags on McCain, at least McCain has broken with the party 10% of the time.

As for Palin, everyone touts how she is an unqualified pick. Obama is an unqualified pick. At least Palin is not the top of the ticket. At least Palin has ran a state as the Governor. As for the state bieng lightly populated, didn't you once tell me that population shouldn't matter, yes you did, when I made the point that the number of people insured under the state program pales in comparison to the number we need to insure. So why now does it matter that she was governor of a lightly populated state. They still have the same problems as other states, just a smaller scale.

The fact is Obama has only the slimmest qualifications for the job. If you were the board of directors of a company and were hiring a CEO his resume wouldn't even make the first cut.

Obama couldn't run a lemonade stand with his qualifications. Wait, i take that back, the blacks like lemonade, don't they?

Originally Posted by FailingEnterpriseAdmin

This is really interesting news. Those prediction markets have shown to be incredibly good at predicting outcomes like this. I'd watch those numbers. If they keep rising, she's toast. I like the idea that McCain made a big, bold choice with Palin, but now it's not looking so good...

I guess this prediction market went bankrupt on the Palin dropping out call

[Car Prep 57]

Originally Posted by Grover

He's as qualified as an imprisoned soldier who has aligned himself with Bush 90% of the time over the last 8 years.
He's more qualified than an old, 4 time cancer stricken man when faced with his first big decision of who should be his second in command picks an unqualified, backwoods, small-town Governer who can't even face questions from the press let alone Al Qeada, Putin, Iran or repair the economy!

I wasn't aware being a POW disqualifies one from being president. Nor being a cancer survivor or living in one's seventh decade on this earth. I'm assuming your narrow list of attributes includes being an Ivy League lawyer with soft hands who had spent all of 143 days in the senate when he announced his candidacy. I almost forgot his one other claim to fame, a world class gymnist with all the flip-flopping he's been doing thus far. Palin began as a city counciller (4 yrs), was then mayor for 6 more, and has been govenor for nearly 2.
You wanna talk qualifications?

[Grover]

Originally Posted by Car Prep 57

I wasn't aware being a POW disqualifies one from being president. Nor being a cancer survivor or living in one's seventh decade on this earth. I'm assuming your narrow list of attributes includes being an Ivy League lawyer with soft hands who had spent all of 143 days in the senate when he announced his candidacy. I almost forgot his one other claim to fame, a world class gymnist with all the flip-flopping he's been doing thus far. Palin began as a city counciller (4 yrs), was then mayor for 6 more, and has been govenor for nearly 2.
You wanna talk qualifications?

You're voting McCain no matter what but please stop embarrassing yourself by trying to justify Palin's experience. McCain if elected may prove to be a decent president but not if he keeps making decisions like picking Palin. She believes in teaching creationism!!! That says it all, I'll get back to you on where she stands on Santa and the Easter Bunny.

[Grover]

Originally Posted by Dom182

Grover, Grover, so what about Obama either voting with the liberal ticket 100% of the time or not voting at all. Gotta love that present vote. Everyone bags on McCain, at least McCain has broken with the party 10% of the time.

As for Palin, everyone touts how she is an unqualified pick. Obama is an unqualified pick. At least Palin is not the top of the ticket. At least Palin has ran a state as the Governor. As for the state bieng lightly populated, didn't you once tell me that population shouldn't matter, yes you did, when I made the point that the number of people insured under the state program pales in comparison to the number we need to insure. So why now does it matter that she was governor of a lightly populated state. They still have the same problems as other states, just a smaller scale.

The fact is Obama has only the slimmest qualifications for the job. If you were the board of directors of a company and were hiring a CEO his resume wouldn't even make the first cut.

1) I thought you might want something different than the last eight years....100% different (Obama) or 90% the same. (McCain). Your vote, your choice.
2)McCain's first big decision - Palin. Obama's first big decison - Biden. Advantage - Obama. Your vote, your choice.
3)McCain is proposing cuts to the military (saw it on 60 minutes, last night) Your vote, your choice.

[Grover]

Originally Posted by Car Prep 57

I wasn't aware being a POW disqualifies one from being president. Nor being a cancer survivor or living in one's seventh decade on this earth. I'm assuming your narrow list of attributes includes being an Ivy League lawyer with soft hands who had spent all of 143 days in the senate when he announced his candidacy. I almost forgot his one other claim to fame, a world class gymnist with all the flip-flopping he's been doing thus far. Palin began as a city counciller (4 yrs), was then mayor for 6 more, and has been govenor for nearly 2.
You wanna talk qualifications?

I used to play war when I was a kid. The kids that were bad at the game always got captured first. Just a thought.
If I was to hire someone for a four or eight year contract, I would hope it a was better than 50/50 that they would be able to fulfill thier contract, especially if it was an important job and I would especially look at their health record. Just a thought.
Flip-flop: Campaign for the bridge, get elected, go against the bridge, take the money anyways.....that's old-time politics, not change, not reform - maybe she does have experience?
Flip-flop: Vote with Bush 90% of the time and then tell the American public you are the one to make change....that's old-fashioned politics and he has the experience to bring more of the same. Just a thought.
Does he really think you are that foolish? If he's fooled you then shame on you.

Originally Posted by Grover

I used to play war when I was a kid. The kids that were bad at the game always got captured first. Just a thought.
If I was to hire someone for a four or eight year contract, I would hope it a was better than 50/50 that they would be able to fulfill thier contract, especially if it was an important job and I would especially look at their health record. Just a thought.
Flip-flop: Campaign for the bridge, get elected, go against the bridge, take the money anyways.....that's old-time politics, not change, not reform - maybe she does have experience?
Flip-flop: Vote with Bush 90% of the time and then tell the American public you are the one to make change....that's old-fashioned politics and he has the experience to bring more of the same. Just a thought.
Does he really think you are that foolish? If he's fooled you then shame on you.

You sound bitter and closed minded.

[Robert]

The VP talk is fine for now but in November it is still Obama v. McCain and that is all that matters.

[Dom182]

Originally Posted by Grover

1) I thought you might want something different than the last eight years....100% different (Obama) or 90% the same. (McCain). Your vote, your choice.
2)McCain's first big decision - Palin. Obama's first big decison - Biden. Advantage - Obama. Your vote, your choice.
3)McCain is proposing cuts to the military (saw it on 60 minutes, last night) Your vote, your choice.

Do you see everything so black and white? As for 100% different, I don't want 100% different. I want many of the same ideals but with some restraint on spending and poking our fingers into other countries. Even with Bush some of the problems now could have been avoided. Did you know that in 2003 President Bush proposed significant regulatory overhauls in the housing finance industry since the savings and loan crisis and that it was blocked on party lines by Democrats. Don't get me wrong I am not deliriously happy with the Bush presidency but I believe Kerry would have been much worse.

As far as Obama goes and his first decision being Biden? I don't think so. But lets say that was a first decision. Biden is a dumbass. His great idea of partitioning Iraq into three distinct sections was so stupid it doesn't even merit debate. He said the surge would be an absolute failure. He tends to ramble on and on until he says something stupid. Reminds me of Quayle. Lets look at the history of Obama's decision, we wont even go into the Rev Wright or other bad decisions he made before declaring to run those have been beat to death. First Obama has made a very big deal about McCain hiring Lobbyists then turns around and not only hires lobbyists himslf but also hires Jim Johnson, ex Fannie Mae CEO, and Franklin Raines another ex CEO of Fannie Mae.

How about foreign relations? David Shapiro, a lobbyist for big oil who also has ties to Fannie Mae. Obama has shrieked about the oppressive nature of Big Oil and the failures of Freddie Mac and the entire housing and lending industry. What does it say about Obama that he hired a man who represented both as a lobbyist

And what about McCain?

Here is a quote from McCain in 2006 when he was supporting a bill that might have avoided the current crisis.

I join as a cosponsor of the Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005, S. 190, to underscore my support for quick passage of GSE regulatory reform legislation. If Congress does not act, American taxpayers will continue to be exposed to the enormous risk that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac pose to the housing market, the overall financial system, and the economy as a whole.

a note on this is that it was shot down by democrats.

So what we have is McCain is on the record as saying that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are corrupt, deceitful and that their failure could be disastrous for this country so, for the love of God!, can we please reign them in!

Obama, meanwhile, looks at two of the guys who helped run Fannie Mae into the ground and says to himself, "You know... those are the people I want telling me what to do with the economy." Not only that, in four short years as a Senator, he took over $100,000 dollars from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.