When will McCain dump Palin?

[Dom182]

Originally Posted by Grover

- She has lied about the Bridge To Nowhere. She ran for office favoring it, wore a sweatshirt defending it, and only gave it up when the federal congress, Senator McCain in particular, went ballistic. She kept the money anyway and favors funding Don Young's Way, at twice the cost of the original bridge.

- She has lied about her firing of the town librarian and police chief of Wasilla, Alaska.

- She has lied about pressure on Alaska's public safety commissioner to fire her ex-brother-in-law.

- She has lied about her previous statements on climate change.

- She has lied about Alaska's contribution to America's oil and gas production.

- She has lied about when she asked her daughters for their permission for her to run for vice-president.

- She has lied about the actual progress in constructing a natural gas pipeline from Alaska.

- She has lied about Obama's position on habeas corpus.

- She has lied about her alleged tolerance of homosexuality.

- She has lied about the use or non-use of a TelePrompter at the St Paul convention.

- She has lied about her alleged pay-cut as mayor of Wasilla.

- She has lied about what Alaska's state scientists concluded about the health of the polar bear population in Alaska.

The Daily Dish | By Andrew Sullivan

I know about the bridge to nowhere. I also remember her saying that she did favor it until she became governor. As for keeping the money? Same thing any governor would do. Librarian, just for your info that is not the same librarian that she asked about removing books. I also never heard her say she didn't fire the librarian or the police chief. As forthe commishioner. If my brother in law threatened to kill my parents and tazered my nephew, and I had the the power to get his ass fired, I would. As for the rest, some of that is supposition the rest I need to look up.

Originally Posted by Poking Your Prostate

Yes, Obama is ahead and so was Kerry at this time in 2004.

Actually Bush was ahead in all the major polls:
ss Bush Kerry Other MOE Undecided
Rasmus9 10 2004 3000 47.50% 46.10% 2.00% 4.00%
Time 9 10 2004 857 54.00% 42.00% 0.00% 4.00% 3.40%
Zogby 9 9 2004 1286 47.00% 45.00% 0.00% 7.00% 3.10%
Opinion9 9 2004 1000 47.00% 45.00% 0.00% 7.00%
Democracy Corps (D) 9 9 2004 1000 50.00% 47.00% 0.00% 3.00%
Gallup 9 5 2004 778 52.00% 45.00% 1.00% 2.00% 3.60%

Here is the site: Vorlon's National Polls Summary Page

Originally Posted by Grover

- She has lied about the Bridge To Nowhere. She ran for office favoring it, wore a sweatshirt defending it, and only gave it up when the federal congress, Senator McCain in particular, went ballistic. She kept the money anyway and favors funding Don Young's Way, at twice the cost of the original bridge.

- She has lied about her firing of the town librarian and police chief of Wasilla, Alaska.

- She has lied about pressure on Alaska's public safety commissioner to fire her ex-brother-in-law.

- She has lied about her previous statements on climate change.

- She has lied about Alaska's contribution to America's oil and gas production.

- She has lied about when she asked her daughters for their permission for her to run for vice-president.

- She has lied about the actual progress in constructing a natural gas pipeline from Alaska.

- She has lied about Obama's position on habeas corpus.

- She has lied about her alleged tolerance of homosexuality.

- She has lied about the use or non-use of a TelePrompter at the St Paul convention.

- She has lied about her alleged pay-cut as mayor of Wasilla.

- She has lied about what Alaska's state scientists concluded about the health of the polar bear population in Alaska.

The Daily Dish | By Andrew Sullivan

Let's cut the crap. You hate women since they have turned you down ever since 3rd grade and you are now taking it out on Palin.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

If she keeps this up she'll match Hillary: Gov. Sarah Palin's favorable/unfavorable ratings have suffered a stunning 21 point collapse in just one week, according to Research 2000 polling. Last week, 52% approved and 35% disapproved of the GOP vice presidential nominee (+17 net). This week, 42% approved and 46% disapprove (-4 net).

Earlier this week, Newsweek also saw the drop in other polling. "Over the course of a single weekend... Palin went from being the most popular White House hopeful to the least."

I'd say the lipstick is smeared off the pig.

George Will said:

"Under the pressure of the financial crisis, one presidential candidate is behaving like a flustered rookie playing in a league too high. It is not Barack Obama..."

It is arguable that, because of his inexperience, Obama is not ready for the presidency. It is arguable that McCain, because of his boiling moralism and bottomless reservoir of certitudes, is not suited to the presidency. Unreadiness can be corrected, although perhaps at great cost, by experience. Can a dismaying temperament be fixed?

So if McCain can't be trusted in a crisis because of his temperament, and he certainly can't be trusted because of his economic knowledge (he has none and relies on Phil Gramm, who brought us this mess), what about Sarah Palin?

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

There's a reason they're hiding Palin.

But think, what if McCain had picked Mitt Romney as his veep choice, like so many of us were fervently hoping?

Sure, the rollout wouldn't have give McCain a fraction of the attention and excitement that Palin generated. The GOP ticket's (now evaporated) post-convention bump would've been smaller, and maybe Romney would've been less effective at revving up the fundy base.

But right now? Romney would be kicking ass. The media would treat him with deference as an economic expert, and let's be honest, he does looks straight out of central casting for the role of "serious businessman who we should defer to on the economy". McCain wouldn't have to hide him. Romney could make the media rounds, being taken seriously no matter what GOP gibberish he spouted. Rather than flail and cower, a McCain/Romney ticket would look sure-footed and confident, projecting gravitas in a time of uncertainty.

[Robert]

Originally Posted by So it goes

George Will said:

"Under the pressure of the financial crisis, one presidential candidate is behaving like a flustered rookie playing in a league too high. It is not Barack Obama..."

It is arguable that, because of his inexperience, Obama is not ready for the presidency. It is arguable that McCain, because of his boiling moralism and bottomless reservoir of certitudes, is not suited to the presidency. Unreadiness can be corrected, although perhaps at great cost, by experience. Can a dismaying temperament be fixed?

So if McCain can't be trusted in a crisis because of his temperament, and he certainly can't be trusted because of his economic knowledge (he has none and relies on Phil Gramm, who brought us this mess), what about Sarah Palin?

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

There's a reason they're hiding Palin.

But think, what if McCain had picked Mitt Romney as his veep choice, like so many of us were fervently hoping?

Sure, the rollout wouldn't have give McCain a fraction of the attention and excitement that Palin generated. The GOP ticket's (now evaporated) post-convention bump would've been smaller, and maybe Romney would've been less effective at revving up the fundy base.

But right now? Romney would be kicking ass. The media would treat him with deference as an economic expert, and let's be honest, he does looks straight out of central casting for the role of "serious businessman who we should defer to on the economy". McCain wouldn't have to hide him. Romney could make the media rounds, being taken seriously no matter what GOP gibberish he spouted. Rather than flail and cower, a McCain/Romney ticket would look sure-footed and confident, projecting gravitas in a time of uncertainty.

But Obama would still connect Romney to Bush, because after all, Bush is to blame for everything from the plague to the Titanic.

[Grover]

Originally Posted by Dom182

I know about the bridge to nowhere. I also remember her saying that she did favor it until she became governor. As for keeping the money? Same thing any governor would do. Librarian, just for your info that is not the same librarian that she asked about removing books. I also never heard her say she didn't fire the librarian or the police chief. As forthe commishioner. If my brother in law threatened to kill my parents and tazered my nephew, and I had the the power to get his ass fired, I would. As for the rest, some of that is supposition the rest I need to look up.

fyi - the link shows where he the info is from.

Originally Posted by Grover

fyi - the link shows where he the info is from.

that's a bullshit link

[Dom182]

Originally Posted by Grover

fyi - the link shows where he the info is from.

First, can you find someone who isn't so far left. I love the one about her pay. She did take her pay down to 61K and the council mandated raises to 68 yet she lied. She did get a 40 billion pipeline approved and they have started with plans and are going to be building it, yet she lied. etc etc.

The Bridge, yes she kept the money and spent it on roads. She decided as the governor that the bridge was a waste and the money could be used in better places. So What.


These are all small. I think you need a few more molehills to build that mountain.

Originally Posted by Grover

fyi - the link shows where he the info is from.

Don't worry Grover. Robert is the type of Neocon fuck that throws Poll numbers around then a few posts later says that polls don't matter because they show a "liberal bias".

Originally Posted by doggy doo doo

Let's cut the crap. You hate women since they have turned you down ever since 3rd grade and you are now taking it out on Palin.

No, actually YOU hate McCain's choice because her novelty has worn off and her negative numbers exceed her approval numbers. The more people find out about her, the more they don't like her (sorta like fish, the longer you keep it the more it stinks) Big deal she can hunt a moose. Have you ever seen the size of a moose? Shit, my blind 93 year old grand mother can shoot one from 400 yards! Like hitting the side of a barn.