If not Enterprise, then where?

[ravencr]

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Shame on you! You are only a very small minority of people who have had a good experience working at enterprise. Everything you said is Enterprise propoganda.

It's not propaganda. It's my experience as a good performing employee.

Do you work in HR or something? Those are the only people who spew out of their mouth exactly what you say. Either that or you are extremeley naive and happy-go-lucky.

I'm neither naive or happy go-lucky, just a realist. If you read my post above you know I'm not in HR. Yep, I'm a minority in the United States, not just Enterprise. Do you know what percentage of the population makes over $100K?

You talk about making money, stop lying to people! Only a very very small percentage of people make the 6 figures...a very small minority!

Exactly! And, I'm very happy that I've worked extremely hard at a place that even allows me the opportunity to do it. That's the benefit to Enterprise. But, does everyone do i? Heck no! In fact, most people just like in the US never either have the opportunity, desire, or ability to make $100K based on their position, company, etc.

I still have over a dozen friends who work at E at all levels and departments. The sad thing is that their salaries have been stagnant for the past six+ years. And none of them makes the six figures you talk about, several of them have been there for over a decade.

Enterprise is a momentum company. If you maintain a steady momentum of consistant performance, you'll get promoted consistantly. If you don't and have down times like most people do, it's easy to see why those that didn't get promoted first. It's one of the few truly performance based companies somebody can work for these days. Have a felt like I was screwed on a pay plan before? Sure, but did it all work out? Yep, sure did! If I had quit, it sure wouldn't have, adn I could be just like the rest of the folks on here that quit before they could prove themselves. I can almost guarantee that if we took a poll of the folks on here that used to work for Enterprise, they probably still aren't making 6 figures, because that's just the way it is in America. Its only a small percentage of the population that does it. And, our salaries only get as high as $31,200 where I'm at. It's mostly a comission job, not a salary job hence the performance based pay.

So shame on you promoting Enterprise as a great place to work. Especially in the long term. Money should never supercede happiness. Shame on you!

I agree that money and work should never supercede happiness. In fact, because of the rental hours I decided to pursue the Fleet Management division of Enterprise, which is a lot less hours and a lot more pay if you perform well.

Chris

Originally Posted by ravencr

Hello everyone,

I've been working for Enterprise since Oct of 2003. I started as an MT after having a few different jobs, such as a financial planner, car sales, and an executive director for a non-profit. Once beginning with Enterprise you realize that the hours are tough, but the people are great to work with. On top of the hours, you'll work non-stop hard all day, ranging from washing cars in a suit to hearing a customer yell at you for something either legitimate or pointless. But, after a hard day's work, you go home very exhausted and ready to relax.

But, to give you an idea of my career, do I like working for Enterprise every day? Nope, sure don't. Do I like it somedays? Yep, definitely. Have they treated me as they promised? Yes, over and above what I expected. Why you ask when all these other folks are bitchin' and moanin' about how bad they are? Why? Because they're not a good fit for the job. They were a bad hire, in most cases, or they lied in the interview that made them appear to be a better fit than they actually were.

So, you wonder how I can say this, right? Well, I started as an MT, probably worked more hours than most, probably cared more than most, took care of customers more than most, and got promoted quicker than most. I was an MT for 6 months, got promoted to assistant manager and was only an assistant manager for a couple of months. From there, I was promoted to Branch manager where I managed a branch for about 8-9 months. From that point, I decided I wanted to go into the fleet management division of Enterprise to really take advantage of my personal sales ability. I've been in the Fleet Management Division now as an Account Executive since April 2005.

So, big deal right? But, imagine this. If I had started at Enterprise straight out of college, I'd be approximately 24-25 years old making just shy of 6 figures, have a company car, 3% matching 401K, profit sharing, full benefits, 17 vacation days a year, and my next step is Regional Sales Manager running an office for Enterprise Fleet Management definitely making well over 6 figures. Now, in my case, I'm 28 years old, but still not to shabby for 28 years old considering I've been with the company for less than 4 years. How many other companies give you the opportunity to earn 6 figures that quick with the potential for millions later in your career.

In fact, Enterprise Fleet Management is similar to how Rent-a-car was 20 years ago. We're not in every state, we're not in Canada, and we're not overseas. If any of you had any idea what the opportunity here at Enterprise was, you'd probably change your point of view. Do I think the job is for everyone? Heck no? But what job is, right? But, for the right person with a personal drive to be extremely successful, it's a great place to grow. To give you an idea, after becoming Regional Sales Manager for a few years, performing well, my next would be to open a new group or state. To give you an idea, my Group Sales Manager makes over $400K/year and there's folks making well over $1,000,000/year, because they've worked their butts off to get there. Nothing great comes easy! Enterprise may appear to good to be true, and it's easy to focus on the the negatives of renting a car at Enterprise. But, the fact of the matter is, for the right person Enterprise is a great place to earn a living and retire very early, if so desired.

There's a lot more I could talk about, but keep in mind there's plenty of days in my career at Enterprise that I've wanted to quit. Did I? Nope, because that's the easy thing to do, just like the rest of the folks on this forum have done. Sure it's easy to get hired into pharms sales after working at Enterprise. But, will you ever make the kind of money I will, not even a chance in hell. In fact, to give those that are interested in tech sales a quick version of what they have for opportunity. Sales is the only positions that make the big bucks. Move up in the company and you'll decrease your pay. How's that sound? Pharm sales? Sounds great and is great if you want to be a salesperson you're whole life and make a solid 6 figure income, have more flexibility, etc. But, what happens when you underperform, the drug(s) you're selling go in the toilet or they lose their rights to a certain item? What kind of job security do you have? Do you think everyone in Pharm sales makes 6 figures? Do you think it's easy too? Have you ever asked one how much paperwork and time at home they spend doing reports? Nothing, nothing great comes easy regardless of the company or job, trust me.

Do you think the Taylor family got lucky and struck gold and it all just happened that they became a 9 billion dollar company. Heck no! They worked their tales off? Do you think Bill Gates has worked long hours? Heck yeah, probably way more than the average folks out there.

I could write a book at how lazy our age group of college grads are. The fact of the matter is our parents have most likely done okay for themselves and as your whippersnappers we expect to be able to do the same with a lot less work. If you ask most successful people in the world today, at some point in their life they worked harder than most, loved it more than most, desired their goals more than most, etc to get where they are today.

I'm done, hope you enjoyed!

Chris

I'm skeptical of this post...could it really be true?
if so, congrats. sounds like it worked for you
though realize you are the 5% that stayed with the company longer than 2 yrs.
and i dunno about your figures, i think you bullshitted a bit...shy of 6 figs?
doubtful.
as a branch manager at a very successful 100 car branch, i was not even close to that.
so i gonna have to call you out as being a HR liar
sorry

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I'm skeptical of this post...could it really be true?
if so, congrats. sounds like it worked for you
though realize you are the 5% that stayed with the company longer than 2 yrs.
and i dunno about your figures, i think you bullshitted a bit...shy of 6 figs?
doubtful.
as a branch manager at a very successful 100 car branch, i was not even close to that.
so i gonna have to call you out as being a HR liar
sorry

oh and sorry bro, one more thing i need to add
i make more than you in pharma sales, only 2 yrs in.
don't let ERAC brass bullshit you

[ravencr]

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I'm skeptical of this post...could it really be true?
if so, congrats. sounds like it worked for you
though realize you are the 5% that stayed with the company longer than 2 yrs.

And you're probably right. It's sad to think it's that hard for most people. And, I guess it was that hard for me, as well, because I switched over to Fleet after a little over a year and half.

and i dunno about your figures, i think you bullshitted a bit...shy of 6 figs?
doubtful.
as a branch manager at a very successful 100 car branch, i was not even close to that.
so i gonna have to call you out as being a HR liar
sorry

You can't make 6 figures in a Rental Branch anymore, unless it's a huge branch with great numbers. In fact, and unfortunately, there's quite a few area managers that don't make 6 figures like they used to. This is due to the business model going to a regionalized approach, which decreased the number of branches an Area manager oversaw. That's again why I went into the fleet department. In rental, if you're a top performing Area Manager, 6 figures is definitely attainable. If you're not, you're most likely making between $75K & $100K, which is still darn good money.

Chris

[ravencr]

Originally Posted by Unregistered

oh and sorry bro, one more thing i need to add
i make more than you in pharma sales, only 2 yrs in.
don't let ERAC brass bullshit you

That's very normal, but where can you go from there and in what timeline?

Chris

Originally Posted by ravencr

That's very normal, but where can you go from there and in what timeline?

Chris

not sure about that, very happy were i'm at currently working for Pfizer.
question yourself, were can you go? do you notice the pyramid at ERAC gets steeper and steeper as you go up? they don't have a need for people at the top, your ascent will slow down mark my words.
funny how ERAC employees get so offended by pharam reps...deep down they know it's a much better job.
sure it def is difficult and docs can be a-holes, but so much more respectable than the car rental biz.
company car, all my gas paid, wirless interent...i got all this when i started.
what did you get at ERAC when you started?

[ravencr]

Originally Posted by Unregistered

not sure about that, very happy were i'm at currently working for Pfizer.
question yourself, were can you go? do you notice the pyramid at ERAC gets steeper and steeper as you go up? they don't have a need for people at the top, your ascent will slow down mark my words.

This happens in every company, not just Enterprise. I outlined where I can go. How do I know I can go there? Because I see happen every year. Are they mediocre performers? Nope, they're the cream of the crop. But, this is typical in every company in America. In fact in Enterprise Fleet Management, it's unusual to have more than 2 people put in for a new group, which is usually an entire state that Fleet Management isn't in yet. It's because people get complacent with where they're at, I guess.

funny how ERAC employees get so offended by pharam reps...deep down they know it's a much better job.
sure it def is difficult and docs can be a-holes, but so much more respectable than the car rental biz.
company car, all my gas paid, wirless interent...i got all this when i started.
what did you get at ERAC when you started?

I don't dislike to think the Pharm positions are bad or never have I got offended by any employee that works in Pharm sales. I think it's a very respectable position. When you start at Enterprise you get nothing of what you mention you go in Pharm sales. But, pharm sales doesn't hire straight out of college grads either, so that's not a fair comparison. Ever since I got to Branch manager, which was approximately 11 months into my career at Enterprise I had a company car. Now, I have a company car, cell phone, free gas both personally and for business, wireless internet, laptop, etc. Did I start with all that? Nope, neither would any pharm rep that was straight out of college. They would have never even got the job to begin with.

Chris

Originally Posted by ravencr

This happens in every company, not just Enterprise. I outlined where I can go. How do I know I can go there? Because I see happen every year. Are they mediocre performers? Nope, they're the cream of the crop. But, this is typical in every company in America. In fact in Enterprise Fleet Management, it's unusual to have more than 2 people put in for a new group, which is usually an entire state that Fleet Management isn't in yet. It's because people get complacent with where they're at, I guess. I don't dislike to think the Pharm positions are bad or never have I got offended by any employee that works in Pharm sales. I think it's a very respectable position. When you start at Enterprise you get nothing of what you mention you go in Pharm sales. But, pharm sales doesn't hire straight out of college grads either, so that's not a fair comparison. Ever since I got to Branch manager, which was approximately 11 months into my career at Enterprise I had a company car. Now, I have a company car, cell phone, free gas both personally and for business, wireless internet, laptop, etc. Did I start with all that? Nope, neither would any pharm rep that was straight out of college. They would have never even got the job to begin with.

Chris

I know quite a few pharma reps who got jobs right outta college
most had science degrees
and don't bullshit, you pay $200 a month for your free car

[ravencr]

Yep, that's correct, but I bet you don't get to use your car personally and not pay for the gas, but I could be mistaken. I don't pay for any gas, personal or business.

You mention a few people getting degrees right out of college with science degrees, and you're correct. I wonder if they were top performers in class or if they didn't have a science degree if they would have.

Chris

Originally Posted by ravencr

Yep, that's correct, but I bet you don't get to use your car personally and not pay for the gas, but I could be mistaken. I don't pay for any gas, personal or business.

You mention a few people getting degrees right out of college with science degrees, and you're correct. I wonder if they were top performers in class or if they didn't have a science degree if they would have.

Chris

i couldn't tell you about their GPAs or class rankings
though they proly weren't dummies.
i can use my car for whatever i chose
i take it home every night
personal gas is on me though
but i don't pay a dime for the vehicle, unlike you