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[Core767]

Originally Posted by bleedgreen

a little venom in that one...that hurts.

I didn't defend firing people for pregnancy. Please cite where I did.

people get pushed out for multiple reasons, and guess what, sometimes pregnant people suck too. Just because you're pregnant doesn't make you exemplify a great worker. If you have an exceeds requirement review and you were mvp last quarter/month and you get pregnant and get fired with no other personnel issues in your file...you have a damn good lawsuit. If you're a mediocre employee with some issues in the past, you are bitter, you can't produce what is needed, you're dragging down morale, and then you happen to get pregnant and get pushed out when you get back...such is life. I have no remorse for a mediocre employee that can't get the job done with no motivation that eventually gets managed out. THAT is life, THAT is business. If you that doesn't fit your idea of a perfect world, don't be surprised if you never run a business. Realism is a bitter pill sometimes.

Even the pregnant mediocre employee still has a damn good case if you fire her after she returns from her leave. It doesn't look good regardless of past reviews, because the simple fact remains that you fired her once she returned from having a baby. News Flash!! There is a connection there. It says, "well she wasn't that outstanding then, and now she is with child, which means she will probably get worse - so I'll just fire her ass, now." If the employee was terrible or mediocre in the first place then you should have canned her before her pregnancy was to your or to public knowledge, because if you did so while she was pregnant it could open the door to a lawsuit. All she has to say is "they fired me because I got pregnant" and the lawyers come knocking. To fire her after she returned from the pregnancy would be disasterous too, because she can still say the same thing. So the only safe action to take would be to wait several more weeks or months after the pregnancy to see if her performance got any better. If not, then fire her because not you have sufficient evidence to get rid of her. THAT is the proper way to do business!!

Originally Posted by Core767

If the employee was terrible or mediocre in the first place then you should have canned her before her pregnancy was to your or to public knowledge, because if you did so while she was pregnant it could open the door to a lawsuit. ...So the only safe action to take would be to wait several more weeks or months after the pregnancy to see if her performance got any better. If not, then fire her because not you have sufficient evidence to get rid of her. THAT is the proper way to do business!!

Semantics. Same point, different verbiage.

[Core767]

Well, one thing for certain - I would not be running a business with you. I am completely capable of running a business on my own, and know how to watch my step when it comes to following ethical guidelines of conduct in business. Anyone who is willing to work with your philosophy is likely to run another Enron or have their business shattered by unethical hiring and firing practices like yours. Did you ever take a business ethics in school?? Because you sound like you need one.

[Core767]

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Semantics. Same point, different verbiage.

Well be more clear in your communication if what you say is the same as what I am saying. I think that is why we're having this conversation - miscommunication.

[Core767]

The philosophy here, bleedgreen, is "work smarter, not harder."

[Core767]

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Semantics. Same point, different verbiage.

I wouldn't call them semantics. My bases are covered in how I would rid myself of an unproductive employee who gets pregnant, yours was filled with holes. It is the difference of what keeps my ass out of a sling and yours in one.

If you're looking for the last word, you can have it. We've established you didn't read my post correctly the first time and I never said I rid myself of pregnant employees inhumanely or at all.

Too bad you can't buy a voodoo globe so that you could make the earth spin real fast and freak everybody out.

-Jack Handy

[disillusioned1]

To anyone thinking of taking a job with Enterprise:
Don't do it if you valuepersonal time
family time
speaking with a mind of your own
money
true opportunity
happiness
peace of mind (CDW haha)


It's a total joke to think of all the hours you will put in and what you get back is not worth the compensation in today's marketplace. You might as well be working for Walmart with out the added pressure or hours. The benefits are lousy, and and most of the people there are phony. To think of all the good people that have walked through those doors and became part of the carnage of the wolfpack that obviously wouldn't make it anywhere else is astounding.
Do yourself a favor and stay at home before farting in their direction.

Disillusioned1

[Cynical]

How long does one stay at ERAC before they become disillusioned??