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Old 2007-09-24
Steve Williams
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There is no question that enterprise is a sucessfull company...I dont think thats what most of us are debating. Are they a fair and ethical company...not really. Do they treat their customers well...sometimes. Do they treat employees well...no not really.

Where I worked in W. Massachusetts there were never any Area Managers making 100K a year...maybe 80 the most which isnt peanuts either but...

I think the important thing to remember is the money isnt everything. I'm only 27 but I've already learned that family and friends and just enjoying life is much much more important than how much $ you make. I've seen ERAC ruin many marriages and relationships and the job takes away so much from personal life. I remember when I was in my first year at ERAC my BM (who is a great person and somehow still works for them) always complained that when he left for work at 7am his 1 year old daughter was still asleep and guess what, when he got home at 7pm or later she was already in bed, he never saw her. That had a huge impact on part of my decision to leave.

Also, money aside my overall well being (mental and physical) improved a ton when I left ERAC. If ERAC offered me 200K to go back and work for them I wouldnt do it...thats no lie. Its not worth working 70 hours per week and I wont bother to spend an hour listing all the other things that are not worth a career at ERAC
I applaud your honesty. The bottom line is that a career with ERAC wasn't for you. Doesn't mean your life is over by any means. That is all I am trying to say. Either you have it or you don't. I myself do not want children so that is not a factor. My girlfriend is also an ERAC employee does not want children so it allows us to go after our careers full blast. Again, that is our choices and not any of yours. ERAC is a great place for people with hard driving work ethics and sales skills. Is it perfect? Nope. But neither is the place you are working at right now. And, I bet they could full up a website like this too. Oh no? That's because ERAC is a target from alot of you because of our success. The New York Yankees are a love em or hate em team because of hteir great success. Don't hear too much about the Mariners now do you? Same thing here. When you are an industry giant you are open to criticism, you can be victim to your own success.
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Old 2007-09-24
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I applaud your honesty. The bottom line is that a career with ERAC wasn't for you. Doesn't mean your life is over by any means. That is all I am trying to say. Either you have it or you don't. I myself do not want children so that is not a factor. My girlfriend is also an ERAC employee does not want children so it allows us to go after our careers full blast. Again, that is our choices and not any of yours. ERAC is a great place for people with hard driving work ethics and sales skills. Is it perfect? Nope. But neither is the place you are working at right now. And, I bet they could full up a website like this too. Oh no? That's because ERAC is a target from alot of you because of our success. The New York Yankees are a love em or hate em team because of hteir great success. Don't hear too much about the Mariners now do you? Same thing here. When you are an industry giant you are open to criticism, you can be victim to your own success.

Did you really just try ERAC with the Yankees or Mariners? How about looking at the real issue -- comparing ERAC EMPLOYEES vs. Yankees or Mariners EMPLOYEES. Well, let's see... you don't hear the players of those teams making that big of a stink because they get paid a lot for their work. That's great that you and your ERAC girlfriend don't want to reproduce -- you probably wouldn't have time for a family if you did. But just ask yourself this -- do you talk about anything except ERAC? Do you do that much outside of work? Or is you fun vacation as a couple going to Orlando every year? Once you leave and work somewhere else, you see how much you're missing when you're at ERAC. When I left ERAC I made MORE than I did at ERAC, with less hours, and MORE vacation time just to start. The grass really is greener on the other side.
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Old 2007-09-25
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It is so true that you don't know what you're missing until you actually leave the company. During my tenure I was sold, 100% green. I made decent money and thought I liked what I did. I remember when one of my good friends decided to leave. When he told me I felt like he had died and I couldn't believe what he was doing. He used to call me after he left and say, Man, you have no idea what you are missing. I didn't believe him. I thought he was just trying to defend his decision and I thought he just couldn't hack ERAC and I actually felt sorry for him. Thank god I finally started to listen to him.
After I left ERAC it was like I was re-born! I never realized what I was missing. Leaving work at 4:30pm everyday was unreal. ERAC was the only job I ever had so I just assumed that everyone worked that long that wanted to succeed. I was able to join a golf club the first year out and I rememeber calling some of my old ERAC buddies from the course at 4:30 some weekdays while they were knee deep in b-shit and customers. I was FREE!!! the hours alone are enough to make a huge difference but there is so much more to it.
Dealing with crazy customers all day, crazy managers all over your ass 24/7.
There is so much more for you to do out there without having to put up with this b-shit. I was an area manager when I decided to leave after I had enough of the constant pressure. I made decent money, about 75K when I left. My life revolved around ERAC! 7 days a week!
I took a bit of a paycut when I left the first year but now make just over a 100K 3 years later working 40 hours a week.
I don't regret my time at ERAC, I think it helped me succeed today but I am sure happy I am no longer there!
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Old 2007-09-25
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I applaud your honesty. The bottom line is that a career with ERAC wasn't for you. Doesn't mean your life is over by any means. That is all I am trying to say. Either you have it or you don't. I myself do not want children so that is not a factor. My girlfriend is also an ERAC employee does not want children so it allows us to go after our careers full blast. Again, that is our choices and not any of yours. ERAC is a great place for people with hard driving work ethics and sales skills. Is it perfect? Nope. But neither is the place you are working at right now. And, I bet they could full up a website like this too. Oh no? That's because ERAC is a target from alot of you because of our success. The New York Yankees are a love em or hate em team because of hteir great success. Don't hear too much about the Mariners now do you? Same thing here. When you are an industry giant you are open to criticism, you can be victim to your own success.

Thanks for applauding my honesty?!?

I think If I were still at ERAC I would of put up a post similar to yours. When I worked there I too thought it was a great job at least at first. Then after about a year and a half I started to realize that I had to get out and the sooner the better. I was really afraid to leave ERAC, its hard to just get up and start over, the whole interviewing process all over again... its tough to deal with. I never realized how bad working for ERAC was until after I got out and praise the lord I got out.

The company I work for now is not perfect but I can guarantee you that you wouldnt see a Web site like this for my current company... and for a small private MA based software company we are pretty big, over 2500 employees. We develop software for hospitals which helps with patient safety...A noble cause I believe. We have a 98% customer retention rate. My current employer treats their employees exceptionally well... for Christmas I wont be getting a CD holder or Hibachi grill I'll be getting about
5K in an annual bonus and I work 40 hours a week and get to work from home two days a week. I've only been here two years and I'm here to stay!

You have to admit the response to this web site is pretty incredible. The hundreds of posts on this site have to tell you that there is something very wrong with ERAC. I'm not sure how many other companies have sites like failing enterprise.

Good luck with your and your girlfriends ERAC career...hey someone has to work there!

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Old 2007-09-25
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Thanks for applauding my honesty?!?

I think If I were still at ERAC I would of put up a post similar to yours. When I worked there I too thought it was a great job at least at first. Then after about a year and a half I started to realize that I had to get out and the sooner the better. I was really afraid to leave ERAC, its hard to just get up and start over, the whole interviewing process all over again... its tough to deal with. I never realized how bad working for ERAC was until after I got out and praise the lord I got out.

The company I work for now is not perfect but I can guarantee you that you wouldnt see a Web site like this for my current company... and for a small private MA based software company we are pretty big, over 2500 employees. We develop software for hospitals which helps with patient safety...A noble cause I believe. We have a 98% customer retention rate. My current employer treats their employees exceptionally well... for Christmas I wont be getting a CD holder or Hibachi grill I'll be getting about
5K in an annual bonus and I work 40 hours a week and get to work from home two days a week. I've only been here two years and I'm here to stay!

You have to admit the response to this web site is pretty incredible. The hundreds of posts on this site have to tell you that there is something very wrong with ERAC. I'm not sure how many other companies have sites like failing enterprise.

Good luck with your and your girlfriends ERAC career...hey someone has to work there!
This post is right on. I was bought in when I first started but the company wears on you and when people are leaving in such high numbers you've got to think there is a reason. I had always worked jobs that required long hours or weekends, so I just figured that was work. But friends didn't have that, they got out at 4 and 5 and didn't start until 9. My friends didn't wear suits to work or get yelled at on a daily basis. They got cash bonuses and real vacation time and holidays off. Now that I am out, wow. ANd the original poster is correct, I'm sure that there is someone or multiple people at my firm who dislike it here. BUt the numbers are on my side and my current employer treats employees great with good pay, bonuses, time off, get out early on holiday weekends, free lunches and so on. I would not trade it for anything.
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Old 2007-09-25
Steve Williams
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Thanks for applauding my honesty?!?

I think If I were still at ERAC I would of put up a post similar to yours. When I worked there I too thought it was a great job at least at first. Then after about a year and a half I started to realize that I had to get out and the sooner the better. I was really afraid to leave ERAC, its hard to just get up and start over, the whole interviewing process all over again... its tough to deal with. I never realized how bad working for ERAC was until after I got out and praise the lord I got out.

The company I work for now is not perfect but I can guarantee you that you wouldnt see a Web site like this for my current company... and for a small private MA based software company we are pretty big, over 2500 employees. We develop software for hospitals which helps with patient safety...A noble cause I believe. We have a 98% customer retention rate. My current employer treats their employees exceptionally well... for Christmas I wont be getting a CD holder or Hibachi grill I'll be getting about
5K in an annual bonus and I work 40 hours a week and get to work from home two days a week. I've only been here two years and I'm here to stay!

You have to admit the response to this web site is pretty incredible. The hundreds of posts on this site have to tell you that there is something very wrong with ERAC. I'm not sure how many other companies have sites like failing enterprise.

Good luck with your and your girlfriends ERAC career...hey someone has to work there!
All I hear is excuses from all of you. Long hours? Work part time at 7-11 then.
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Old 2007-09-25
Steve Williams
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This post is right on. I was bought in when I first started but the company wears on you and when people are leaving in such high numbers you've got to think there is a reason. I had always worked jobs that required long hours or weekends, so I just figured that was work. But friends didn't have that, they got out at 4 and 5 and didn't start until 9. My friends didn't wear suits to work or get yelled at on a daily basis. They got cash bonuses and real vacation time and holidays off. Now that I am out, wow. ANd the original poster is correct, I'm sure that there is someone or multiple people at my firm who dislike it here. BUt the numbers are on my side and my current employer treats employees great with good pay, bonuses, time off, get out early on holiday weekends, free lunches and so on. I would not trade it for anything.
With each post you are proving what a baby you are. Was ERAC your first big-boy job? ERAC was never meant to be for people who are looking to cut corners for a career. Wise up, in this country you work to be successful. it is not handed out like welfare checks.
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Old 2007-09-25
cardinal woosley
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With each post you are proving what a baby you are. Was ERAC your first big-boy job? ERAC was never meant to be for people who are looking to cut corners for a career. Wise up, in this country you work to be successful. it is not handed out like welfare checks.
Erac is most people's first supposed "big boy" job. ERAC was never meant to be for people seeking a long term career...how many people do you know that have retired from ERAC? Very little, cause 75% of their employees don't make it to the age of 30 at erac. wise up, in this country you are considered a low class car renter bitch faking a middle class lifestyle. quit hating on somebody else cause you are a failure and know it.
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Old 2007-09-25
Steve Williams
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Erac is most people's first supposed "big boy" job. ERAC was never meant to be for people seeking a long term career...how many people do you know that have retired from ERAC? Very little, cause 75% of their employees don't make it to the age of 30 at erac. wise up, in this country you are considered a low class car renter bitch faking a middle class lifestyle. quit hating on somebody else cause you are a failure and know it.
Gosh, how many of you quitters are on this site each day? I am starting to thin these are all from one person now since it has the same messages: I am a quitter, the hours are long, and the customers suck. You sound like a broken record whoever you are.
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Gosh, how many of you quitters are on this site each day? I am starting to thin these are all from one person now since it has the same messages: I am a quitter, the hours are long, and the customers suck. You sound like a broken record whoever you are.
Someone needs to get a real job. Let me ask you a question Mr. williams, how proud are your parents of you that they paid all that money for you to go to school to end up working in retail and washing cars? Bet they get all proud hanging with the neighbors whose kids are doctors or lawyers or architects or in a real business and then your dad tells about how you sold dub last month and delivered donuts to the local body shop. Must make them feel like their money was well spent. How does it feel to be a glorified taxi driver/car wash/rental jockey? I quit ERAC but I did it to make more money...how does that make me a quitter? Simple math...take your salary and divide it by your hours worked, probably come out to 10 or 11 an hour. I think I'll take my $30 an hour if that's ok by you...turd.
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