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[Tim O' Tei]

Originally Posted by EZ LIFE

Why do you keep posting on this site loser? why are you concerned that you couldnt hack the job? if it wasnt for you then it wasnt for you ? move on not everyone can be as successful as me why dont you log on to a more useful forum and devote your time to something more useful like save the whales or oxfam or nspcc cause you are becomin really fookin boring with your silly shampoo name and your childish views and your gripes about not being paid and promoted by BK who gives a toss about you and your sad little life go and get a girlfriend and stop spankin off over this site nob face

And therein lies the rub.

It is because of illiterate, moronic and retarded fools like you. I am here like hundreds of other posters to show what a shithole this company is to work for.

I left under my own steam for a superior job. Given my track record with ERAC I could more than hack-it and earned a significant amount of cash. In fact it helped me put a substantial deposit down on my house. In the early days I vled green because of the cash and am now trying to help others realise that firstly, the cash simply isn't there for the UK offices anymore, and secondly working in the way ERAC promotes and coerces is not worth it.

Again, you haven't said why anyone should hack a job.

I'll tell you what; Seeing as you're so upset people around the world hate the company you work for, I'll do you a deal. If you can come up with an explanation as to WHY ANYONE SHOULD HACK A JOB, I'll stop posting?

Deal?

Tim, I'm with you - in my early years I 'hacked/put up with' things because, essentially the money was great for what was a glorified delivery job! It requires little thought - I mean you just match people with vehicles don't you? However, you quickly realise that to be able to 'hack it' is only something that you have to be able to appear to do to get promoted. I mean, what is so 'macho' about working late, or taking on too much business - it means nothing to the customer, or anyone else in the real world.

Forget Bodyshop/Dealer marketing too - ERAC is there purely for convenience to its replacement referral sources. They only really rent in an emergency...or when they've fucked up. The whole Matrix I/II thing is just smoke and mirrors, nobody would ever trust ERAC to soley provide their c/cars for them - they're not reliable enough. BM's don't waste your time trying to do take-downs - you can't manage it!

Originally Posted by Unregistered

yeah you sound like you just couldnt hack it was the pressure too much?

YOu have no fucking idea you wanker ! ERac is a pile of piss ! you suck cock unlike caroline!!!!

Originally Posted by Tim O' Tei

Please tell us why we should hack a job?

When you spend 70 hours per week at your workplace you should enjoy it, not 'hack it'.

You're an abolute prick aren't you?

and you are just boring timotit

Originally Posted by EZ LIFE

Why do you keep posting on this site loser? why are you concerned that you couldnt hack the job? if it wasnt for you then it wasnt for you ? move on not everyone can be as successful as me why dont you log on to a more useful forum and devote your time to something more useful like save the whales or oxfam or nspcc cause you are becomin really fookin boring with your silly shampoo name and your childish views and your gripes about not being paid and promoted by BK who gives a toss about you and your sad little life go and get a girlfriend and stop spankin off over this site nob face

a very amusing response and very accurate - i am sure all of the timotit and joely f haters totally agree with this

Originally Posted by Unregisteredzxc

and you are just boring timotit

And you are evidently the same person as above.

Give it up, you're on your own

Originally Posted by Tim O' Tei

And therein lies the rub.

It is because of illiterate, moronic and retarded fools like you. I am here like hundreds of other posters to show what a shithole this company is to work for.

I left under my own steam for a superior job. Given my track record with ERAC I could more than hack-it and earned a significant amount of cash. In fact it helped me put a substantial deposit down on my house. In the early days I vled green because of the cash and am now trying to help others realise that firstly, the cash simply isn't there for the UK offices anymore, and secondly working in the way ERAC promotes and coerces is not worth it.

Again, you haven't said why anyone should hack a job.

I'll tell you what; Seeing as you're so upset people around the world hate the company you work for, I'll do you a deal. If you can come up with an explanation as to WHY ANYONE SHOULD HACK A JOB, I'll stop posting?

Deal?

since when is being a recruitment consultant a superior job than say running a branch, where you are responsible for say 7-8 staff? so how many staff are you responsible for timotit? or are still being constantly told about the 'PSL' word?

how many CV's have you had to read today? How many times has a HR doris told you that the people you have selected are no good?

being a recruitment consultant nowadays is not the same as it used to be. back in the day (mid to late 90's) there was a genuine skills shortage in all disiciplines and therefore being a recuitment consultant was very affulant career path. nowadays the industry as a whole is known as a 'buyers market', where the end clients are in the driving seat and poxy recruitment agents like you are doing twice the work for half the pay. trust me everything is true - my partner runs her very own sucessful recruitment agency, and the last 5 odd years have been the toughest she has ever known it to be.

the industry is picking up, but it will be quite a few years till it's the same as the glory years of late 1990's.

so before you start 'lording' it over the current erac employees, stop and have a think about it - that way you will not look as stupid

[Tim O' Tei]

Originally Posted by Unregisteredxsw

since when is being a recruitment consultant a superior job than say running a branch, where you are responsible for say 7-8 staff? so how many staff are you responsible for timotit? or are still being constantly told about the 'PSL' word?

how many CV's have you had to read today? How many times has a HR doris told you that the people you have selected are no good?

being a recruitment consultant nowadays is not the same as it used to be. back in the day (mid to late 90's) there was a genuine skills shortage in all disiciplines and therefore being a recuitment consultant was very affulant career path. nowadays the industry as a whole is known as a 'buyers market', where the end clients are in the driving seat and poxy recruitment agents like you are doing twice the work for half the pay. trust me everything is true - my partner runs her very own sucessful recruitment agency, and the last 5 odd years have been the toughest she has ever known it to be.

the industry is picking up, but it will be quite a few years till it's the same as the glory years of late 1990's.

so before you start 'lording' it over the current erac employees, stop and have a think about it - that way you will not look as stupid

I have recently been offered a new role. I am (or will be in 2 weeks time), in charge of a team of 6 plus an admin worker. As for the PSL/HR side, I prefer to be honest and say if I don't have enough people for a shortlist. Unlike certain roles where lying to customers and accounts is standard practice, I find it weakens credibility and will eventually lead to a client going elsewhere. Better to be consultative than just fire over cvs.

Indeed it is hard work - and I have said on many occasions that it isn't a perfect role- but it is superior to ERAC in the following ways:-

Pay: Basic more than £10k over a BM ... add in a £5k car allowance. Commission based on MY work. Not hoping for flip or worrying that I can't
increase my business because there is a shortage of resources eg: cars.

Hours: I work 8.45 till 6/6.30. Now that doesn't sound much different to ERAC but: I get a lunch hour and regular breaks AND I ORGANISE MY DAY. This means that I din't get mondial call at 17.59. I am responsible for my bonus. I don't rely on corporate structuring £8.50 deals. If need be I can stay on and interview people for roles. This may take me over normal working hours BUT again IT IS AT MY DISCRETION. The choice is mine. Not an AM. Not some call centre. MINE. If I feel a candidate is good and I can make cash I will stay. The market at the moment is not buyer led, it is very candidate driven (you might want to check this with your girlfriend) so if someone is marketable I pretty much know I will make cash.

I don't work Saturdays or Sundays. When I leave the office, I don't care if admin have paid the water bill, or if Health and Safety may come round and check my cleaning facilities. Invoices are due to paid in 14 days and are chased by an accounts team. Time isn't taken out of my day. If the bills aren't paid a fine is levied. One thing about dealing with accountants as clients is that they always pay on time. It's their responsibility to balance the books and they make sure that accounts recievable and payable are always up to date, especially with Sarbanes-Oxley being so prominent at present.

Types of business: I work on behalf of several large companies across all industries. I am not limited in dealing with :

Bodyshops who consistently forget to tell you about customers
Dealerships who have a customer break down and want you to put them in a car asap only to have a grease monkey drop the car back 6 days after the customer has returned it
Corporate who guarantee to deliver a car in 2 hours when the customer is over three hours away.
Pikey cash retail customers who always 'want a deal' at 11.30 on a Saturday.

Nor do I deal with idiot Area/City/Group managers who say they are trying to change the culture of the company yet do fuck-all.

Is the recruitment industry in trouble? Not really. Yes there were problems after 9/11 but that is the same for all companies. It has changed significantly over the last 2 years. All markets have been depressed but there have been several notable movements in recruitment. Hays last year made record profit. Their activity is now in excess of their 2000 figures - your girlfriend may want to check this, it is in their Annual Statement. Within the financial services sector, I know of several companies (HSBC, Bank Geheimschaft, HBOS, ABN-AMRO) who have asked to be represented when looking for newly qualified candidates. There has been stagnation in the market leading to a temporary lack of candidates because there were a lack of vacancies on courses. As such they are now seeking newly quals and are more than prepared to pay a premium OVER AND ABOVE STANDARD 30% rates. Additionally people stayed put in jobs waiting to see what would happen.. These people are now moving. By acting as a consultant and being credible and honest during 'hard' times, these people come to me for advice and whether or not I place them, they come back to me to recruit the staff that they decide are lacking in their new companies. Add to this I know that they begin to look so I look for their replacement straight away.

But the main thing I enjoy, is bating people like you who by your own admission admit that you have no direct involvement in either market.

I hope that answers your question.

you are so full of shit I can smell it from here

[Tim O' Tei]

Originally Posted by Ziggy Stardust

you are so full of shit I can smell it from here

Welcome to the conversation.

The Arsehole tablets are working again I see.