Unemployment, has ERAC fought yours?

[HalfPastTen]

OK, I've been seeing more and more on this thread about ERAC fighting unemployment in addition that they lie through their teeth as to why you don't deserve benefits. This forum is open for discussion, post your story here and any tips and advice you may have to ensure this doesn't happen to anyone else.

[SoonToBeFree]

I was told by the 17EE HR manager that ERAC has absolutely no say in who gets or doesn't get unemployment. She said the state makes that determination, not ERAC. I begged to differ, but she kept insisting that they have no part in the decision making process. Even when I explained that I'd been there, done that, and won, she said that the laws must have been different then. Yeah.

[TrailerTart]

Originally Posted by SoonToBeFree

I was told by the 17EE HR manager that ERAC has absolutely no say in who gets or doesn't get unemployment. She said the state makes that determination, not ERAC. I begged to differ, but she kept insisting that they have no part in the decision making process. Even when I explained that I'd been there, done that, and won, she said that the laws must have been different then. Yeah.

Your HR Manager doth lie too much, methinks...

[Unregistered4areason]

I was terminated from ERAC and applied for unemployment and got it for 6 months without ERAC contesting. I was ready for a fight, but obviously my boss & HR person knew it was best to not contest!

[smilesincegone]

If you are fired then there is only 2 reasons why you can't get unemployment.
1. STOLE MONEY
2. SEXUAL HARASSMENT

Now if you were fired and you didn't commit one of the first two, then the only reason ERAC can fight your claim and win is if....You aren't preforming your job efficently...So you can't be low on the matrix. You have to meet area standards for those great DW sales.

So as long as you preformed (i.e, sold waiver) then your golden. So remember if ERAC even tries to fight your claim and you file an appeal you will win.

Key to remember you have to have the numbers to get unemployment, otherwise they have a case in you not preforming your job. and even though you busted your ass for this dreadful company, you will get DeNiEd!

[freedfromERAC]

I recently got fired or "asked to resign" what do you think my chances of getting unemployment are??

[freeatlast]

Originally Posted by freedfromERAC

I recently got fired or "asked to resign" what do you think my chances of getting unemployment are??

It depends on if you actually resigned or they fired you. I think if you resigned you can't get anything.

[3***C]

I went through the unemployment route about 7 years ago, and they fought it all the way to arbitration. I eventually won, as I had everything documented (that's my tip--document EVERYTHING!! dates, times, people spoken with, etc)...only crappy thing was I was let go a month from my 5 year anniversary (typical cheap bastards).

[superman123]

Good thread, where do I start.

Unemployment benefits are awarded by the state but the burden of proof is on the moving party. If you voluntarily quit you can still get unemployment benefits but you must prove it was due to certain reasons that forced you to quit (i.e. hostile work enviornment, poor ethics, etc). You must prove that you tried to get these things corrected but Enterprise didn't resolve them, thus forcing you to quit. Most of the time a voluntary quit will result in you not getting benefits.

If Enterprise fires you they have the burden of proof. If you were fired because you violated policy or broke the law Enterprise will need to prove that you knew about the policy and the expectations. They will usually win if they have documentation of progressive discipline for you breaking policy.

If they give you the option of quitting or being fired most state claim workers will treat this as an unvoluntary termination and will most likely award you benefits. You're better off having them fire you however.

ENTERPRISE LIKES TO PULL THIS SHIT- If you give two weeks notice and they tell you not to work the two weeks and not to come back, they have to pay you for those two weeks or it's no longer a voluntary termination. You will get unemployment benefits for being discharged unless they let you work your last two weeks or release you and pay you for the time.

[contracheck]

Originally Posted by superman123

Good thread, where do I start.

Unemployment benefits are awarded by the state but the burden of proof is on the moving party. If you voluntarily quit you can still get unemployment benefits but you must prove it was due to certain reasons that forced you to quit (i.e. hostile work enviornment, poor ethics, etc). You must prove that you tried to get these things corrected but Enterprise didn't resolve them, thus forcing you to quit. Most of the time a voluntary quit will result in you not getting benefits.

If Enterprise fires you they have the burden of proof. If you were fired because you violated policy or broke the law Enterprise will need to prove that you knew about the policy and the expectations. They will usually win if they have documentation of progressive discipline for you breaking policy.

If they give you the option of quitting or being fired most state claim workers will treat this as an unvoluntary termination and will most likely award you benefits. You're better off having them fire you however.

ENTERPRISE LIKES TO PULL THIS SHIT- If you give two weeks notice and they tell you not to work the two weeks and not to come back, they have to pay you for those two weeks or it's no longer a voluntary termination. You will get unemployment benefits for being discharged unless they let you work your last two weeks or release you and pay you for the time.

I truly ! believe that there are - for lack of a better word - "f i x e d" dealings ERAC has with the unemployment folks who continually deny benefits to dismissed employees for "fixed" reasons !!! Yes ! .... I say this because I know that out of say .. 10 "dismissed" employees I have known and/or who have posted on this website , maybe !!! 1 did get unemployment benefits .. and so only under drastic circumstances ... in some cases with the involvement of legal counsel only at the employees' own expense ! I find this to be a dehumanizing "cookie cutter"-type practice on the part of ERAC and I doubt this will ever change for whatever reason. The only resolve for a person who has been dismissed from their job at ERAC is to gain distance/recover from the nightmare slavery and move forward to bigger and better things and let their self-esteem LIVE taking into account the good job they have done, unappreciated for spending hours upon hours on a job that is modern day slavery.

To all who have been "dismissed" and have been denied Unemployment benefits my message is: don't get mad ... be glad you are out of the ERAC cult, get a better job elsewhere and never look back !

Been there/done it-contracheck ....